Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:06:45 EST From: David Meyer To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <734013.140228.PAPA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Congratulations on getting COMSAT back up. I have a question about the HTTP server here on SV. (You have my complements on this cool hack, by the way: http://its.svensson.org/common%3Bpapa%20www ) Some of my files (papa www, papa hellol) get displayed in my browser (Firefox 15.0.1) as expected (HTML and plain text, respectively). However, the browser tries to download the plain text file PAPA ITSCH as binary. Is that text-or- binary judgment being made by the server or my client? If it's the server, what's it referencing to make that decision? Thanks, -- David "papa" Meyer Takarazuka, Japan  Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:29:16 EST From: David Meyer To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <734014.140228.PAPA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Regarding the HTTP server, I've partially answered my own question. I see that the server is setting the response content type to either text/html or text/plain based on file contents, so I assume that the decision to display some text/plain responses but binary download other is being done by my browser. Now I have to figure out what Firefox thinks is different about PAPA HELLOL versus PAPA ITSCH. I don't see anything obviously binary-ish about the latter. Regards.  Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:15:09 EDT From: "Christopher C. Stacy" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731796.130808.CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> OK, I think the guest directories are not set up right. They are defined in an obscure binary file. Right now, if someone is logged in without their own personal home directory, all kinds of things go wrong, because that table doesn't appear to be set up. This might or might not be related to the mail piling up in COMMON. I am going to look at this first, since it potentially breaks more than just email. (Rejecting spam will be a seperate issue.)  Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:56:26 EDT From: "Christopher C. Stacy" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731788.130808.CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Well, the SMTP server's notion of "too busy" is if COMSAT's directory (.MAIL.) is too full. Directories get full either by many files, or also by too many bytes. There could either be incoming spooled MAIL files in there, or the queue file (LISTS MSGS) could be getting too large, or too many old STATS or other files. It doesn't care about the COMMON directory. However, the plumbing could be getting backed up if COMSAT has too many queued messages (per above), because it could not deliver to the COMMON directory. So a few things I am investigating are: 1. When does COMSAT deliver to the COMMON directory? I don't remember that as ever being a mailbox directory. 2. One of the users (chosen at random) getting spam in COMMON was "CPR". Why would COMSAT think his mail directory of COMMON? Dunno. But this is normally based on his home directory. The HSNAME command prints out garbage when I ask about CPR. The WHOIS command claims not to know him. I think something might be misconfigured on the system about home dirs. Maybe there is also a corrupt INQUIR database as a side issue. I think COMSAT should totally reject mail for unknown users. Do you agree?  Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 07:15:56 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731743.130722.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: WSG USER [NEW] + ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: WSG USER [OK] + ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] [new password]  Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:53:48 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731735.130716.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: WSG USER [NEW] + ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: WSG USER [OK] + ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:39:17 EST From: COMSAT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Msg of Sunday, 21 March 2010 06:19-EST To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731432.100326@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> FAILED: UPDATE-INQUIR at [64.32.179.59]; Host appears to be permanently down or not accepting mail. Failed message follows: ------- Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:19:39 EST From: Paul Svensson To: UPDATE-ITS-INQUIR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731422.100321.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> BEGIN: SUNAME: JSOL UNAME: JSOL AUTHO: * NAME: Jonathan A. Solomon NICK: JSol MITAD: MITTE: +1 860 977 0542 HOMAD: 152 Cannon Rd, East Hartford, CT 06108-2812 USA HOMTE: NETAD: jsol@TheWorld.com SUPER: PROJE: FILDI: jsol GROUP: T RELAT: N BIRTH: December 29 REMAR: Hi. I am an internet wizard. Let me cast a spell on you! Check out ar0:jsol; for stuff I have collected about the ARPANet and the Internet. Check out dsk:jsol;resume > for my resume. ALTER: PAUL 100321-061958 END:  Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:51:03 EST From: "Jonathan A. Solomon" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731395.091212.JSOL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> i can't fix my inquire entry... it forwards to my MIT.EDU account but I can't change it or anything else in inquire..... I don't know what to do to fix it, but if you can that would be cool...  Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:39:40 EST From: Derek Peschel To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731331.090331.DHP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Are you not accepting Supdup logins? They worked when I was testing a client in the past. Now they don't work -- in fact I didn't realize SV was still working until Bjorn Victor told me about Telnet logins.  Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:14:05 EST From: "Jonathan A. Solomon" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731166.090306.JSOL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I tried to /change my phone number on inquire, but it never got handled. It still has my old number in inquire as well as :whois jsol.  Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:11:16 EST From: "Zachary T. Kline" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <731013.081104.KLINEZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi, Just thought I should let you know in case you didn't already that apparently the web server is down. At any rate, I can't seem to access it from here. Best, Zack.  Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:43:43 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730812.080828.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: CMB USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: CMB USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:15:55 EDT From: Christopher M. Brannon@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CMB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730811.080828.CMB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 AUG 2008 2315-EDT From: "Christopher M. Brannon" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Christopher M. Brannon From net site 68.12.115.220 Purpose: I'm interested in the PDP-10 and the operating systems that ran on it. I've been using TOPS-20 for a couple months now, and I wanted to see what ITS is like. I'm under 30, and the PDP-10 is wonderfully different than the architectures I've used. Address: (405) 630-8617 Not willing to give the home address, as I don't own the property. E-mail cmbrannon@cox.net. Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:13:53 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730788.080819.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: JED USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: JED USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:27:07 EDT From: JAMES EDWARD DEAGLE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JED@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730787.080819.JED@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 AUG 2008 1327-EDT From: "JAMES EDWARD DEAGLE" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: JAMES EDWARD DEAGLE From net site 206.47.255.92 Purpose: I wish to use this machine to gain some hands-on experience with ITS. Address: 613-818-3371 1002-1300 RICHMOND ROAD OTTAWA, ON K2B 8J6 CANADA Affiliation: N/A  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:29:42 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730762.080816.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: USER USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: USER USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:30:29 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730763.080816.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: TOBI USER [APL] + ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: duplicate  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:30:33 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730764.080816.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: KLINEZ USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: KLINEZ USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:30:38 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730765.080816.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: MATTY USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: duplicste  Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:01:08 EDT From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TOBI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730744.080813.TOBI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 13 AUG 2008 0601-EDT From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 87.180.186.55 Purpose: playing Address: N/A Affiliation:  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:17:31 EDT From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MATTY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730754.080815.MATTY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 AUG 2008 0217-EDT From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 150.101.232.226 Purpose: FUN Address: 123 Affiliation: NONE  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:28:11 EDT From: Zachary Kline@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KLINEZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730757.080815.KLINEZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 AUG 2008 0827-EDT From: "Zachary Kline" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Zachary Kline From net site 72.255.14.66 Purpose: Learning new operating systems and experimenting with something historic. If possible, I'd like to run a version of ITS myself someday. Address: 503-939-6978 211 Buxton Hall Oregon State University Corvallis, OR 97331 Affiliation: Student at Oregon State University.  Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:02:33 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730725.080801.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: STAS USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:11:25 EDT From: stas@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730694.080715.STAS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 JUL 2008 0511-EDT From: "stas" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: stas From net site 91.122.46.61 Purpose: to rule the worldAddress: Affiliation:  Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:35:28 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730680.080707.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: DRDAXX USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:35:38 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730681.080707.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: MATTL USER [APL] * ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymouns  Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:14:14 EDT From: Niklas K.@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DRDAXX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730636.080629.DRDAXX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 29 JUN 2008 0514-EDT From: "Niklas K." To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Niklas K. From net site 79.201.119.158 Purpose: TestingAddress: Affiliation:  Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 02:40:57 EDT From: MATT LEE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MATTL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730672.080704.MATTL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 JUL 2008 0240-EDT From: "MATT LEE" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: MATT LEE From net site 76.119.239.181 Purpose: LOOKING AROUND, MAYBE HACKING Address: FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION, 51 FRANKLIN ST, BOSTON, MA 02110 Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:31:19 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730540.080611.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: WEST USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: WEST USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:48:51 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730536.080605.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: FFOEG USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:57:58 EDT From: Timothy West@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: WEST@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730539.080605.WEST@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 5 JUN 2008 2157-EDT From: "Timothy West" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Timothy West From net site 70.111.209.157 Purpose: look aroundAddress: 9084643477 110 Diamond Hill Road, Berkeley Heights, NJ Affiliation: Boston College  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:29:00 EDT From: Ffoeg@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730515.080605.FFOEG@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 5 JUN 2008 0729-EDT From: "Ffoeg" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ffoeg From net site 142.59.177.151 Purpose: ExplorationAddress: nNOAffiliation: None  Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:12:08 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730489.080602.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: GRAWIT USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: GRAWIT USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:42:18 EDT From: Mantas@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GRAWIT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730486.080531.GRAWIT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 31 MAY 2008 1342-EDT From: "Mantas" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Mantas From net site 212.47.107.149 Purpose: just to see WTF is ITS, and what was it like then. P.S. ^C to confirm? :] Address: Affiliation: null  Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:15:09 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730473.080529.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NOUN TURIST [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8 Is: NOUN USER [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8  Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:33 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730469.080529.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NOUN TURIST [OK] * (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8 Is: NOUN TURIST [OK] * (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8  Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:13:25 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730470.080529.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NOUN TURIST [OK] * (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8 Is: NOUN TURIST [OK] + (No INQUIR entry) 05/29/:8 [new password]  Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:34:24 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730452.080527.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: YELLOW USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: YELLOW USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:33:23 EDT From: Simon Erhardt@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: YELLOW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730449.080525.YELLOW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 MAY 2008 1033-EDT From: "Simon Erhardt" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Simon Erhardt From net site 91.138.15.69 Purpose: Having funAddress: +41 78 889 5Fon: +41 78 889 5015 alte Oberdorfstrasse 3 4652 Winznau SWITZERLAND Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:48:24 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730385.080515.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: LORD USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:06:32 EDT From: CELSIUS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730380.080514.LORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 MAY 2008 1506-EDT From: "CELSIUS" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: CELSIUS From net site 190.55.152.217 Purpose: Address: Affiliation:  Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 05:42:00 EDT From: Wojciech R. Kusiak@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: WOJTEK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730326.080505.WOJTEK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 5 MAY 2008 0541-EDT From: "Wojciech R. Kusiak" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Wojciech R. Kusiak From net site 12.145.241.249 Purpose: Personally, I'd like to see "how it's done here". After some grief, I managed to obtain a MIT-AI dump (the one that was hosted on its.os.org), and even booted the thing. But I'd ran into, wrm, problems? And it would be nice to be able to look how things are done by an experienced its admin. Address: The phone is +48 506 84 52 59 . I live in Lodz, Poland, but I'd like to keep my snail-mail address private. If you require it,just ignore this application. Affiliation:  Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:48:35 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730327.080505.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: WOJTEK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: WOJTEK USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:39:00 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730262.080423.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NAXXTO USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: NAXXTO USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:03:03 EDT From: ned tore@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: NAXXTO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730256.080422.NAXXTO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 APR 2008 1503-EDT From: "ned tore" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: ned tore From net site 84.92.198.25 Purpose: exploration Address: Electronics Department, University of Kent, Canterbury, UK Affiliation: none  Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:53:05 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730235.080420.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RYAN USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RYAN USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:53:05 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730235.080420.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RYAN USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RYAN USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:45:56 EDT From: Ryan McCoskrie@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RYAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730216.080418.RYAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 18 APR 2008 0345-EDT From: "Ryan McCoskrie" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ryan McCoskrie From net site 125.239.165.63 Purpose: Learning ITS and PDP nessAddress: Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:22:45 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730053.080326.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: ALEXP USER [APL] * ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:40:23 EST From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ALEXP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <730048.080326.ALEXP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 26 MAR 2008 0740-EST From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 129.217.184.77 Purpose: Address: Affiliation:  Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:06:08 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729913.080310.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: SCWERL USER [APL] * ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:23:39 EST From: nick a@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SCWERL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729903.080309.SCWERL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 9 MAR 2008 1823-EST From: "nick a" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: nick a From net site 24.22.154.220 Purpose: experimentation Address: Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:49:02 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729859.080304.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: DRSTRA USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: DRSTRA USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:26:16 EST From: Andi Chor@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DRSTRA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729857.080304.DRSTRA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 MAR 2008 0826-EST From: "Andi Chor" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andi Chor From net site 82.138.231.34 Purpose: playing aroundAddress: 31, Newcastle Street manchester 01612321901 Affiliation: an anarchist gnostic  Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:01:46 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729752.080218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: ANOTHE USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:01:52 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729753.080218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: DIEGO USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: DIEGO USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:13:57 EST From: Someone Youdontknow@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ANOTHE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729704.080211.ANOTHE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 11 FEB 2008 1013-EST From: "Someone Youdontknow" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Someone Youdontknow From net site 125.63.226.5 Purpose: Finding out the meaning of life Address: Yeeeeeessssss....Affiliation: ...  Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:40:28 EST From: Diego R. Martinez@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DIEGO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729725.080214.DIEGO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 FEB 2008 1540-EST From: "Diego R. Martinez" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Diego R. Martinez From net site 155.41.112.1 Purpose: Operating system exploration.Address: 617-505-5092 1450 Commonwealth Avenue Apartment 30 Brighton, MA 02135Affiliation: Boston University  Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:44:30 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729685.080207.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: LOKI USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: LOKI USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:08:16 EST From: Kai Bergmann@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LOKI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729681.080207.LOKI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 7 FEB 2008 1508-EST From: "Kai Bergmann" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Kai Bergmann From net site 80.130.66.232 Purpose: I'm interested in getting a copy of SHRDLU running. I loaded SV:SHRDLU; on my system, however it does nowon't read some files and detects EOF where it shouldn't). It seems that I mangled the files while transferring them, so I'd like to test SHRDLU on SV. - Apart from that, I try to preserve as much of ITS as I can. I do in no way intend to harm SV or use it for malicious purposes. Address: Telephone: +49 (175) 334 0057 or +49 (202) 250 4322 Postal address: Kai Bergmann Turnstrasse 15 D-42289 Wuppertal Germany You are free to call me from 1700 to 2300 CET, but I suspect that would be insanely expensive. You can mail me however, my netaddress is . Affiliation: none  Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:28:18 EST From: John Flore@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FLOREN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729657.080205.FLOREN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 5 FEB 2008 1228-EST From: "John Flore" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: John Flore From net site 146.246.248.21 Purpose: Learning ITS Address: Cell: 509-431-1140 Postal: 1970 Cornflower Commons Livermore, CA 94551 Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:49:09 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729662.080205.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: FLOREN USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: FLOREN USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:20 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729616.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: NADA USER [APL] * ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:23 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729617.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: DAVB USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: DAVB USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:26 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729618.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: ZD USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: ZD USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:29 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729619.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RFFTRX USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RFFTRX USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:35 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729620.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: TARAKA USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: TARAKA USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:35 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729620.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: TARAKA USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: TARAKA USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:35 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729620.080129.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: TARAKA USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: TARAKA USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:32:15 EST From: nada@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729485.080110.NADA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 10 JAN 2008 1832-EST From: "nada" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: nada From net site 209.211.140.153 Purpose: Address: Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:24:26 EST From: Zarko@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ZD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729517.080115.ZD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 JAN 2008 0324-EST From: "Zarko" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Zarko From net site 83.236.239.162 Purpose: testing Address: +49694587621 Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:50:27 EST From: Brendan Seaton@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RFFTRX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729561.080122.RFFTRX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 JAN 2008 1850-EST From: "Brendan Seaton" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Brendan Seaton From net site 99.226.59.40 Purpose: SHRDLU Address: 01-416-733-4344 20 GREENBRIAR RD NORTH YORK, ONT CANADA Affiliation: NONE  Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:29:27 EST From: Otto Schulze@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TARAKA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729571.080124.TARAKA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 JAN 2008 0029-EST From: "Otto Schulze" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Otto Schulze From net site 67.38.98.214 Purpose: Research of Maclisp and PDP-10 architecture Address: 219-931-6000 252 Wildwood Road Hammond, IN 46324 Institution: American Conservatory of Music Email: otto@americanconservatory.edu Affiliation: Chairman American Conservatory of Music  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:53:42 EST From: David Lynch@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DAVB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729614.080129.DAVB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 29 JAN 2008 0153-EST From: "David Lynch" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: David Lynch From net site 76.174.36.250 Purpose: Macsyma And for nostalgia Address: 805-640-1212 690 S La Luna Ave Ojai CA 93023 Affiliation: None, jus an older developer  Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:40:27 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729474.080109.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: JTUTTL USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonyms  Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:40:41 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729475.080109.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: GHE USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: GHE USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:39:42 EST From: J.P.@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JTUTTL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729452.080107.JTUTTL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 7 JAN 2008 1139-EST From: "J.P." To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: J.P. From net site 68.163.236.66 Purpose: Just curious about ITS Address: Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:47:07 EST From: Gauthier van den Hove@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GHE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729473.080109.GHE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 9 JAN 2008 1447-EST From: "Gauthier van den Hove" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Gauthier van den Hove From net site 213.41.184.166 Purpose: Discover ITS ;-) Address: gauthier@fibonacci.org Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:22:18 EST From: "L. Andreas Davour" Sender: LAD0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729374.071226.LAD0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Jag har nu blivit utsl{ngd fr}n SV n}gra ggr. 'read from net failed: Operation times out' och sedan kopplas jag ner. [r det SV eller dess host, eller mitt n{t som strular. Har du gjort n}t som kan t{nkas vilja koppla ner idlande TCP koppel? ,  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 19 Dec 2007 08:43:42 EST Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4843A54AB for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so2661424rvb.45 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.169.9 with SMTP id w9mr4189816rvo.179.1198071448393; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.126.21 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:37:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <62336d0d0712190537qef99588u9542e907ee3dcf81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:37:28 -0800 From: "Bob Kerns" Sender: rwk@4kows.com To: "Paul Svensson" Subject: Re: Old times (ITS) In-Reply-To: <729301.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13004_23537487.1198071448387" References: <729301.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c66e16d883f30638 ------=_Part_13004_23537487.1198071448387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, I got on, added myself to inquir, and created myself a directory (I trust that's OK, but you can delete it if you're running low, I'm not putting anything important there). I can't remember how to change my own password. I probably never used it. Since I wrote panda, that's probably what I did. I can hardly remember how to use DDT -- and I used to maintain it!: On 12/18/07, Paul Svensson wrote: > > you're in the panda database, but not in inquir, that's why I didn't see > you > you can log on now > the passwords is changed > > /Paul > ------=_Part_13004_23537487.1198071448387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, I got on, added myself to inquir, and created myself a directory (I trust that's OK, but you can delete it if you're running low, I'm not putting anything important there).

I can't remember how to change my own password. I probably never used it. Since I wrote panda, that's probably what I did.

I can hardly remember how to use DDT -- and I used to maintain it!:

On 12/18/07, Paul Svensson <PAUL@its.svensson.org > wrote:
you're in the panda database, but not in inquir, that's why I didn't see you
you can log on now
the passwords is changed

    /Paul

------=_Part_13004_23537487.1198071448387--  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:37:37 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729298.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RWK DAY [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88 Is: RWK DAY [OK] + (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88 [new password]  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:38:24 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729299.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RWK DAY [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88 Is: RWK USER [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:38:49 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729300.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RWK USER [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88 Is: RWK USER [OK] (No INQUIR entry) 09/26/88  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:42:51 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729302.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: RWKRWK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: use rwk instead  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:31:24 EST From: Bob Kerns@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RWKRWK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729289.071218.RWKRWK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 18 DEC 2007 1331-EST From: "Bob Kerns" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Bob Kerns From net site 166.214.234.239 Purpose: Old times Address: 415-305-7544 14 wildflower drive Corte Madera, CA 94915 Affiliation: Posit Science Corporation (formerly, Macsyma group)  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 18 Dec 2007 13:32:40 EST Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553C95481 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so2380069rvb.45 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.82.2 with SMTP id f2mr5186089rvb.25.1198002388083; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.126.21 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:26:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <62336d0d0712181026o48b4b5f4n63ac4ce3bcaf0fa8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:26:28 -0800 From: "Bob Kerns" Sender: rwk@4kows.com To: "Paul Svensson" Subject: Re: Old times (ITS) Cc: rwk@acm.org In-Reply-To: <729285.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10663_6753727.1198002388052" References: <729285.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> X-Google-Sender-Auth: de628a651d6b1518 ------=_Part_10663_6753727.1198002388052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, I just tried that, but it tells me that RWK is already in use. Which is what I'd expect, since that was the very first user, since I wrote the program! I could set up a different name, but I'd really like 'rwk' for old times sake if it isn't too much of a problem. (If you can't figure it out, l'll make do with rwk2 or something. In fact, to keep this efficient, I'll do rwkrwk now (since it doesn't allow trailing digits)). Thanks. On 12/18/07, Paul Svensson wrote: > > I don't see any RWK user, > but there is a TEACH directory. > Just supdup over and apply at the prompt, I'll set you up. > > > /Paul > > ------=_Part_10663_6753727.1198002388052 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline OK, I just tried that, but it tells me that RWK is already in use.

Which is what I'd expect, since that was the very first user, since I wrote the program!

I could set up a different name, but I'd really like 'rwk' for old times sake if it isn't too much of a problem. (If you can't figure it out, l'll make do with rwk2 or something. In fact, to keep this efficient, I'll do rwkrwk now (since it doesn't allow trailing digits)).

Thanks.

On 12/18/07, Paul Svensson <PAUL@its.svensson.org> wrote:
I don't see any RWK user,
but there is a TEACH directory.
Just supdup over and apply at the prompt, I'll set you up.


      /Paul


------=_Part_10663_6753727.1198002388052--  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 9 Dec 2007 03:40:27 EST Received: from host321.ipowerweb.com (host321.ipowerweb.com [66.235.211.141]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E623954AB for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61610 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 08:26:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO howard) (207.172.209.81) by host321.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2007 08:26:51 -0000 From: "Kent M Pitman" To: Cc: "'Kent M Pitman'" Subject: Please unpublish LSPDOC files Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:32:05 -0500 Message-ID: <00ed01c83a3d$fb714660$1502a8c0@howard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C83A14.129B3E60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acg6Pfq5v1daMX/aT8+dLZ7QyN2A4A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C83A14.129B3E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sigh. I see that you have my LSPDOC files published on your web (maclisp documentation). Could you please not do that? They are my work, and are not released for general use. I asked Alan Bawden long ago to have them removed from the ITS distribution, and I thought they had been. Through accidents of history, I signed away my rights to the published form of the Revised Maclisp Manual (though, strictly speaking, not to those files, which were source documents used in producing it). MIT made a truckload of money selling my Revised Maclisp Manaul without ever paying me a dime and it's quite a sore subject with me. It took me years to get the rights from MIT to build derivative works of my own documents, and I've been doing that now that I have legal permission. It has taken me years to get that together and it will soon be published to the web. But you have no idea how depressing it is to keep finding people who have improper copies of those sources and have published them prematurely. The entire saga will be published with my document, and I'm really not very likely to get any money out of it even after years of free-time work writing the original and years more of free-time work putting it into web form . but I'd at least like the dignity of being able to control when they are rolled out. I would like not to be competing with illicit/unauthorized copies of my work. Thanks. --Kent ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C83A14.129B3E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sigh.

 

I see that you have my LSPDOC files published on your = web (maclisp documentation). Could you please not do that?  They are my = work, and are not released for general use. I asked Alan Bawden long ago to have them = removed from the ITS distribution, and I thought they had = been.

 

Through accidents of history, I signed away my rights = to the published form of the Revised Maclisp Manual (though, strictly speaking, = not to those files, which were source documents used in producing it). MIT made = a truckload of money selling my Revised Maclisp Manaul without ever paying = me a dime and it's quite a sore subject with me.

 

It took me years to get the rights from MIT to build derivative works of my own documents, and I've been doing that now that = I have legal permission.  It has taken me years to get that together and = it will soon be published to the web.

 

But you have no idea how depressing it is to keep = finding people who have improper copies of those sources and have published them prematurely… The entire saga will be published with my document, = and I'm really not very likely to get any money out of it even after years of = free-time work writing the original and years more of free-time work putting it = into web form … but I'd at least like the dignity of being able to control = when they are rolled out.

 

I would like not to be competing with = illicit/unauthorized copies of my work.

 

Thanks.

 --Kent

 

------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C83A14.129B3E60--  Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:47:35 EST From: "J. Noel Chiappa" Sender: JNC0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729241.071213.JNC0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> The console log message about a write to SYSHST;AR1 is apparently because it updated the access time when I looked at a file in the archive, not because I actually changed anything. Anyway, glad to see the system is still here and up! Interestingly, you seem to have some stuff which is not in the dump files from http://www.its.os.org/. You may have the only copies of some of these files online in the whole Internet! Noel  Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:28:04 EST From: Stuart Brady@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SDB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729270.071216.SDB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 DEC 2007 1328-EST From: "Stuart Brady" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Stuart Brady From net site 213.107.26.151 Purpose: Not sure, yet. Address: sdbrady@ntlworld.com Affiliation:  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 17 Dec 2007 03:00:51 EST Received: from host321.ipowerweb.com (host321.ipowerweb.com [66.235.211.141]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A569E54B2 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82503 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2007 07:47:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO howard) (207.172.209.81) by host321.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2007 07:47:37 -0000 From: "Kent M Pitman" To: Cc: "'Kent M Pitman'" Subject: The Revised Maclisp Manual (Sunday Morning Edition) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: <008801c84081$e68e8d80$1502a8c0@howard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0089_01C84057.FDB88580" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AchAgeX69YSEf12RRhyl0RZcbuNqlw== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C84057.FDB88580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My maclisp manual is finally webbed: http://www.maclisp.info/pitmanual/ Please request that people refer to this site if they need Maclisp documentation. (At present, downloads are not available. Maybe in the future sometime.) See, in particular, http://www.maclisp.info/pitmanual/credits.html ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C84057.FDB88580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My maclisp manual is finally = webbed:

 

http://www.maclisp.info/pitma= nual/

 

Please request that people refer to this site if they = need Maclisp documentation.

(At present, downloads are not available.  Maybe = in the future sometime.)

 

See, in particular, http://www.maclis= p.info/pitmanual/credits.html

 

------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C84057.FDB88580--  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 17 Dec 2007 09:19:36 EST Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A33054AB for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so1922384rvb.45 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.113.6 with SMTP id q6mr3986905rvm.135.1197900788804; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.126.21 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:13:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <62336d0d0712170613k4a3ff888j69db190bf688beec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:13:08 -0800 From: "Bob Kerns" Sender: rwk@4kows.com To: paul@its.svensson.org Subject: Old times (ITS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8178_859926.1197900788790" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 14f80781fbd9c7e9 ------=_Part_8178_859926.1197900788790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kent Pitman just reminded me about your site... I'd love to log in and look around, but I've forgotten my password sometime over the past quarter century. I'm particularly interested whether any remnants of my TEACHLISP facility are around -- though I see my directory (RWK) is not. Thanks. ------=_Part_8178_859926.1197900788790 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kent Pitman just reminded me about your site...

I'd love to log in and look around, but I've forgotten my password sometime over the past quarter century.

I'm particularly interested whether any remnants of my TEACHLISP facility are around -- though I see my directory (RWK) is not.

Thanks. ------=_Part_8178_859926.1197900788790--  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:13:02 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729283.071218.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: SDB USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: SDB USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:55:06 EST From: Saku Setala@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SETALA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729209.071210.SETALA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 10 DEC 2007 0055-EST From: "Saku Setala" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Saku Setala From net site 193.229.0.86 Purpose: Study ITS Address: saku.setala@kolumbus.fi +358505641855 Vihtatie 1B1 FI-02770 ESPOO FINLAND Affiliation: Han Radio OH2PU/OH6PU  Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:25:14 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729214.071210.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: SETALA USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: SETALA USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:22:30 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729167.071204.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: FOFIK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:16:12 EST From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FOFIK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729147.071202.FOFIK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 2 DEC 2007 1416-EST From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 155.245.48.21 Purpose: fun Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:57:07 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728909.071111.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RHUDSO USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RHUDSO USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:57:14 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728910.071111.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: YOSHI USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: YOSHI USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:57:22 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728911.071111.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: MSPOCK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: MSPOCK USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:39:17 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <729003.071114.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: ZULU USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: anonymous  Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:22:52 EST From: zulu master@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ZULU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728986.071113.ZULU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 13 NOV 2007 1022-EST From: "zulu master" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: zulu master From net site 83.64.192.57 Purpose: explore exotic oses Address: no treally Affiliation: no  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:16:08 EST From: Joseph Marlin@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: YOSHI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728838.071029.YOSHI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 29 OCT 2007 2216-EST From: "Joseph Marlin" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Joseph Marlin From net site 67.47.242.146 Purpose: Operating system study and general geekery. Address: (810)962-9336 8141 Calkins Rd Flint, MI 48532 Affiliation: N/A ; Highschool student  Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:24:05 EST From: MICHAEL R@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MSPOCK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728889.071103.MSPOCK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 3 NOV 2007 2124-EST From: "MICHAEL R" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: MICHAEL R From net site 71.98.47.165 Purpose: RESEARCH AND FUN Address: Affiliation: NONE  Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:03:24 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728729.071020.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: PANDER USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: PANDER USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:03:35 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728730.071020.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RICK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RICK USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:03:24 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728729.071020.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: PANDER USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: PANDER USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:03:35 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728730.071020.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: RICK USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: RICK USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:04:17 EDT From: Rick Tucker@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RICK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728707.071018.RICK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 18 OCT 2007 2304-EDT From: "Rick Tucker" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Rick Tucker From net site 76.21.183.206 Purpose: Using ITS again (I can't remember my Jason or RWT passwords) Address: +1-703-671-7098Affiliation: MIT alumnus - RickTucker@alum.mit.edu  Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:26:02 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728645.071012.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NJR USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: NJR USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:26:09 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728646.071012.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: FENELO USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: FENELO USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:53:47 EDT From: Peter Fenelon@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FENELO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <728610.071008.FENELO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 OCT 2007 1053-EDT From: "Peter Fenelon" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Peter Fenelon From net site 194.60.90.1 Purpose: research into emacs historyAddress: +44 7966 301876 3 Beckside Gardens, Melrosegate, York, UK Affiliation: none  Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:41:33 EDT From: "Kent M. Pitman" Subject: accounts To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727634.070714.KMP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul. Do you give out extra accounts on here? Someone I know in Portugal has been researching old Maclisp issues and would like a machine where he can log in and test a few things. Let me know if it's something you wouldn't mind and I'll refer him through to you. Thanks much! --Kent Pitman  Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:55:58 EDT From: Matthew Williams@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: OS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727267.070525.OS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 MAY 2007 1855-EDT From: "Matthew Williams" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Matthew Williams From net site 68.46.5.169 Purpose: Learning about ITS. I like to study computing history, particularly operating systems. Address: 302 740 5278 Cell 2230 Old Orchard Road, Wilmington, DE 19810 Affiliation: Student at University of Delaware Computer Programmer / Consultant at Basell Polyolefins USA  Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:18:40 EDT From: "L. Andreas Davour" Subject: Gammalt jobb ligger som zombie To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727068.070419.LAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> :LOCK och GUN hade totalt fallit mig ur minnet. Tack!  Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:19:04 EDT From: "L. Andreas Davour" Subject: Gammalt jobb ligger som zombie To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727069.070419.LAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> :LOCK och GUN hade totalt fallit mig ur minnet. Tack!  Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:11:56 EDT From: "L. Andreas Davour" Sender: LAD0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Gammalt jobb ligger som zombie To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727061.070417.LAD0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Det verkar inte som om mitt jobb under UNAME LAD vill kila vidare, trots :KILL. Borde inte det erbjuda sig att ATTACH om jag supdupar in och loggar in? Det ser lite dumt ut med ett LAD jobb och jag som LAD0, tycker jag... /ante  Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:15:03 EDT From: John F.@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DIGI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <727047.070415.DIGI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 APR 2007 2315-EDT From: "John F." To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: John F. From net site 129.21.106.144 Purpose: Experimenting with ITS Address: I'm sorry, I don't like to give that out. You can contact me at slawmaster AT gmail.com Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:06:31 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726989.070327.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: THYRAE USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: THYRAE USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:09:06 EST From: Kai Bergmann@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: THYRAE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726988.070327.THYRAE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 27 MAR 2007 0109-EST From: "Kai Bergmann" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Kai Bergmann From net site 80.130.247.93 Purpose: I'd like to get uses to as much operating systems as possible. I have experience with Unix, and playerd around with VMS and TOPS/20. Address: Affiliation: There are none.  Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:03:52 EST From: LK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726780.070112.LK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 12 JAN 2007 1703-EST From: "LK" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: LK From net site 62.183.165.57 Purpose: exploration Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:25:40 EST From: Richard Hunt@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RRHUNT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726628.061216.RRHUNT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 DEC 2006 1525-EST From: "Richard Hunt" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Richard Hunt From net site 86.0.203.70 Purpose: experience Address: Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:55:36 EST From: D. Hugh Redelmeier@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: HUGH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726582.061212.HUGH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 12 DEC 2006 1455-EST From: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: D. Hugh Redelmeier From net site 74.103.108.92 Purpose: play Address: Toronto Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 23:47:11 EST From: Daniel D. Badger@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: BADGER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 14 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726480.061108.BADGER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 NOV 2006 2347-EST From: "Daniel D. Badger " To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Daniel D. Badger From net site 146.115.121.95 Purpose: Comparison of MIT archived ITS configurations to currently running models.Address: 617-642-1846 11 Melville Rd, Somerville MA 02145Affiliation: MIT CSAIL  Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:04:12 EDT From: David Barts@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DAVIDB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726400.060928.DAVIDB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 SEP 2006 2004-EDT From: "David Barts" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: David Barts From net site 209.221.134.50 Purpose: Exploring the history of computing (and executing some legacy TECO macros). Address: 202-948-6191 1122 E Pike St PMB 1092 Seattle, WA 98122 Affiliation: None  Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:06:12 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726328.060829.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: LLONGT USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: insuffiocia  Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:06:17 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726329.060829.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: STD USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: STD USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:06:21 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726330.060829.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set the following account: Was: NICKG USER [APL] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: NICKG USER [OK] ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown]  oDate: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:27:56 EDT From: Nick Gasson@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: NICKG@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726320.060826.NICKG@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 26 AUG 2006 1327-EDT From: "Nick Gasson" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Nick Gasson From net site 213.122.14.50 Purpose: Geeky interest in operating systems Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:54:41 EDT From: Stephen Dedalus@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: STD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726324.060827.STD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 27 AUG 2006 2154-EDT From: "Stephen Dedalus" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Stephen Dedalus From net site 200.179.236.54 Purpose: Hacking on ITSAddress: Affiliation:  Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:47:58 EDT From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PROBA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726209.060701.PROBA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 1 JUL 2006 0847-EDT From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 217.75.143.16 Purpose: Curiosity Address: 1Affiliation: student  Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:48:36 EDT From: Serhei V. Makarov@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SERHEI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726217.060706.SERHEI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 6 JUL 2006 2048-EDT From: "Serhei V. Makarov" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Serhei V. Makarov From net site 64.231.131.161 Purpose: Occasional Nostalgia. Cautiously Poking Around. Address: Please, no. Affiliation: None.  Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 11:18:02 EDT From: Ralph Hyre@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RALPHW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726135.060528.RALPHW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 MAY 2006 1118-EDT From: "Ralph Hyre" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ralph Hyre From net site 69.133.206.80 Purpose: connecting for former AI Lab members Address: (513) 575-4973 1288 colonel mosby drive (1288 col mosby drive) Milford, OH 45150 Affiliation: MIT graduate  Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:35:34 EDT From: Jose E. Marchesi@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JEMARC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726084.060421.JEMARC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 APR 2006 0635-EDT From: "Jose E. Marchesi" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Jose E. Marchesi From net site 83.230.192.8 Purpose: Hacking in ITS :) Address: +34 665 16 70 67 Affiliation: GNU Project  Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:43:56 EDT From: Ai Olor-Wile@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: AXOW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726054.060406.AXOW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 6 APR 2006 2343-EDT From: "Ai Olor-Wile" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ai Olor-Wile From net site 66.102.80.243 Purpose: Learning about ITS; seeing it live and in action (with more than a minitape to explore.) Address: Affiliation: http://sntc.ath.cx/  Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:17:40 EDT From: Adam G@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TEFERI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726049.060406.TEFERI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 6 APR 2006 0117-EDT From: "Adam G" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Adam G From net site 71.123.113.61 Purpose: Experimenting with ITS, which I've heard so much about in AI Lab-era storiesAddress: Affiliation:  Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:35:04 EST From: Douglas Taylor@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GHOSTD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726020.060320.GHOSTD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 MAR 2006 1935-EST From: "Douglas Taylor" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Douglas Taylor From net site 82.153.201.97 Purpose: learning how to use a pdp-10Address: unable to provideAffiliation: Abertay university, Dundee, Scotland  Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:58:06 EST From: Chris Ryland@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CPR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726025.060321.CPR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 MAR 2006 2058-EST From: "Chris Ryland" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Chris Ryland From net site 67.163.235.149 Purpose: Nostalgia (I used MIT-AI & crew back in the late 70's) Address: 740 284 1010 Em Software, Inc. 503 Belleview Blvd. Steubenville, OH 43952 USA Affiliation: Em Software, Inc.  Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:05:07 EST From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CPR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726015.060320.CPR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 MAR 2006 1205-EST From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 67.163.235.149 Purpose: Address: Affiliation:   Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:02:03 EST From: Paul Svensson To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725992.060313.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I deleted the following account: Was: UNFO USER [APL] * ! (No INQUIR entry) [Date Unknown] Is: [DELETED] Because: no personal info  Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:09:56 EST From: Sam Zoghaib@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SMZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726000.060315.SMZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 MAR 2006 1409-EST From: "Sam Zoghaib" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Sam Zoghaib From net site 131.111.24.158 Purpose: Having fun with MIDAS assembler languageAddress: for the next five months: +44 1223 764288 DPMMS Centre for Mathematical Sciences University of Cambridge Wilberforce Road Cambridge CB 30WB United KingdomAffiliation: Ecole normale superieure (Paris)  Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:13:21 EST From: Ruben Garcia Martin To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <726004.060316.RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul! Is there any kind of ITS-community/forum/chat around? I'm realizing that there's too little documentation on the net to run an ITS and being able to maintain ;) Thankx R.  Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:58:52 EST From: no@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: UNFO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725988.060313.UNFO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 13 MAR 2006 1958-EST From: "no" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: no From net site 70.24.212.140 Purpose: seeing old INFO filesAddress: no, sorryAffiliation: none  Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:59:55 EST From: Jason Spiro@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JASONS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725991.060313.JASONS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 13 MAR 2006 1959-EST From: "Jason Spiro" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Jason Spiro From net site 70.24.212.140 Purpose: Address: 416 781 5938 118 Viewmount Ave. Toronto, ON M6B 1T6 Affiliation: student  Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:35:48 EST From: RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725975.060309.RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul! It seems that I have no directory on the machine, thus I can't receive mail or store (temp) files :) I'd appreciate to have one so that my files don't clobber the system ;) Alsao, is there a way to list directories? :listf only tells files, but I can't get it to show the dirs in a disk. Thanks a lot and have fun! :)) Ruben.  Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:35:48 EST From: RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725975.060309.RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul! It seems that I have no directory on the machine, thus I can't receive mail or store (temp) files :) I'd appreciate to have one so that my files don't clobber the system ;) Alsao, is there a way to list directories? :listf only tells files, but I can't get it to show the dirs in a disk. Thanks a lot and have fun! :)) Ruben.  Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:33:35 EST From: Devon Sean McCullough Subject: DSK: SYS2; TS RR - LINK TO NON-EXISTENT FILE To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725959.060305.DEVON@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Attempting to compile a TECO library fails for lack of RR, not sure what it is.  Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:37:58 EST From: Ruben Garcia Martin@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725964.060306.RUBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 6 MAR 2006 0837-EST From: "Ruben Garcia Martin" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ruben Garcia Martin From net site 62.14.192.90 Purpose: Hacking :p basically getting the feeling of an ITS system so that I can set up my ownAddress: Phone: +34-91-3945198 Address: C. Camarena, 100, 2-D 28047 Madrid Spain Affiliation: Universidad Complutense de Madrid  Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:05:37 EST From: Donald Fisk Subject: telnet to sv To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725947.060304.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:19:58 EST Paul Svensson wrote: > Telnet to SV is supposed to be working, if it doesn't, then > something is wrong. > I'm still having problems with occasional crashes that I think > are caused by the web server; I would like to replace it with > the lisp webserver from UU, but I haven't had the time. Maybe > you could look into this ? Not sure I'll be able to find the time for this either. Telnet seems to be working -- but for many months I failed to login from work because telnetting outside the firewall was disabled -- and not realizing this I assumed SV was down, until I checked and found I could read its file system using Mozilla. Where is UU? Is its web server in Maclisp (in which case it should be trivial), Emacs Lisp or Common Lisp (in which case it may or may not be trivial to convert)? /Paul Donald  Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:10:53 EST From: Devon Sean McCullough Subject: inquir@sv To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG, DEVON@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG In-reply-to: Msg of Wed 1 Mar 2006 21:21:45 EST from Paul Svensson Message-ID: <725944.060303.DEVON@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:21:45 EST From: Paul Svensson To: DEVON at ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Re: inquir@sv If you updated your records lately, I think it might have been lost while comsat was down. I just zapped a couple of months of stuck mail... /Paul How did you do that? I never dared mess with COMSAT in the old days, that was the domain of staff who were actually getting paid to. Peace --Devon PS: TECO doesn't hack mouse clicks yet.  Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 18:41:45 EST From: Matthew J. Lecin@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MIJJIL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725929.060106.MIJJIL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 6 JAN 2006 1841-EST From: "Matthew J. Lecin" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Matthew J. Lecin From net site 68.192.156.82 Purpose: Hacking, of course! Address: 1-732-563-1029 362 Cherry Avenue Bound Brook, NJ 08805 USA Affiliation: Chaotic Hungry  Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:25:41 EST From: Volker Eichhorn@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: VOSI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725892.051216.VOSI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 DEC 2005 2225-EST From: "Volker Eichhorn" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Volker Eichhorn From net site 80.171.86.248 Purpose: I want to look around and learn a little bit about ITS. I have heard some things and i am familiar with TOPS-20. ok, i think i will just show off that i can use just another OS.Address: Volker Eichhorn Stresemann Strasse 321 22761 Hamburg Germany +49 176 206 49110 Affiliation: No academical. But i am proud member of sdf.lonestar.org  Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:31:28 EST From: Chris Baird@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CBJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725888.051216.CBJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 DEC 2005 0131-EST From: "Chris Baird" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Chris Baird From net site 203.14.156.27 Purpose: Touristing. Address: cjb+its@brushtail.apana.org.au Affiliation: None. Unemployed!  Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:12 EST From: Samuel Lauber@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SAMUEL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725883.051215.SAMUEL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 DEC 2005 1035-EST From: "Samuel Lauber" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Samuel Lauber From net site 66.91.90.248 Purpose: I would like to use it to explore what the MIT AI lab computers/ITS was like, and generally for nostalgia. Address: I would not like to give this information, but I can be contacted by e-mail at . Affiliation: None.  Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:01:18 EST From: Michael Widerkrantz@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MCW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725878.051214.MCW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 DEC 2005 1301-EST From: "Michael Widerkrantz" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Michael Widerkrantz From net site 194.145.250.126 Purpose: Experiment with ITS. Learn MIDAS. See if I can understand software devices a la ITS. Address: mc@hack.org Affiliation: Axis Communications AB Temple of the Moby Hack  Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:08:43 EST From: Greg Sharp@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GSHARP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725842.051122.GSHARP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 NOV 2005 1408-EST From: "Greg Sharp" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Greg Sharp From net site 4.190.225.71 Purpose: To work with SHRDLU. Address: 323-6192 384 N. Allumbaugh, Boise, IDAffiliation:  Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:28:49 EST From: Christopher Browne@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CBBROW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725849.051125.CBBROW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 NOV 2005 1828-EST From: "Christopher Browne" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Christopher Browne From net site 207.219.45.62 Purpose: Learning about ITS Address: 416-609-1473 10 Carabob Ct #914 Toronto, ON M1T 3N5 Canada Affiliation: Afilias (Go figure!)  Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:50:30 EST From: CHIBA Masaomi@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MASSO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725823.051114.MASSO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 NOV 2005 2150-EST From: "CHIBA Masaomi" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: CHIBA Masaomi From net site 222.225.9.26 Purpose: learning ITS Address: 081-090-6134-1299 Affiliation: 1-10-17-203 Kita-Kalasuyama Setagaya-ku Tokyo,Japan  Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:51:47 EST From: Michael J. Kerpan@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MJK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725829.051115.MJK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 NOV 2005 1351-EST From: "Michael J. Kerpan" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Michael J. Kerpan From net site 158.121.99.117 Purpose: Learning about mainframesAddress: Top secret ;)Affiliation: None  Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:49:00 EST From: Andreas Schmidt@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SHM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725804.051110.SHM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 10 NOV 2005 1449-EST From: "Andreas Schmidt" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andreas Schmidt From net site 82.83.225.132 Purpose: learning Address: +49 511 620019 Hertzstr. 8 30163 Hannover GERMANY Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:24:59 EST From: Thomas DeBellis@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SLOGIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725796.051108.SLOGIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 NOV 2005 1624-EST From: "Thomas DeBellis" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Thomas DeBellis From net site 24.47.48.231 Purpose: I am currently implementing an extended mode FTP server under Tops-20. I would like to use the ITS FTP client to do regression testing to insure that I have not broken code to other 36 bit systems. I have a small amount of experience with ITS. My first undergraduate degree is in Computer Science from Worcester Polytechnic Institute, a small engineering college about 30 miles from Boston. A number of my friends graduated from WPI and went on to graduate degrees at MIT. I used to come and visit them and hang out on the ninth floor. My account was SLOGIN at MIT-DM (back when that venerable KA was still in service). I know my way around enough to use Emacs, Info and FTP, but not much more then that. I promise to behave and not be a pest. You can email me at slogin@acedsl.com. In addition, if you've subscribed to MRC's TOPS-20@LINGLING.PANDA.COM (Tops-20 Wizards list), you've probably seen a number of my posts over the past 20 years. Address: 917-674-5263 Cellphone 631-424-3628 Land line 10 Myrtle Avenue Huntington, New York 11743 Affiliation: I currently work as a consultant for New Century Medical Associates  Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:32:41 EST From: Christopher Patti@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FEOH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725785.051108.FEOH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 NOV 2005 1232-EST From: "Christopher Patti" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Christopher Patti From net site 18.103.14.214 Purpose: Getting more of a sense of how a working ITS system runs so I can more properly populate the emulated ITS system I run on my own machine. My interest is read-only and I don't intend to modify anything system-wise. Thanks for hosting! Address: Phone: 617-710-1806 Paper: The Broad Insititute at MIT 32 0 Charles Street Cambridge, MA, 02141 Affiliation: MIT  Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:45:09 EST From: Mycroft@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MYCROF@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725790.051108.MYCROF@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 NOV 2005 1345-EST From: "Mycroft" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Mycroft From net site 209.6.103.199 Purpose: Address: Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:32:02 EDT From: maru dubshinki@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MARU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725764.051027.MARU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 27 OCT 2005 1932-EDT From: "maru dubshinki" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: maru dubshinki From net site 129.21.121.58 Purpose: I wish to learn about ITS to expand the wikipedia article on ITs; it is unclear as to why it was so beloved, giving few reasons for what made it so much better than the alternatives. Address: 585 758 4830 3298 Nathaniel Rochester Hall Rochester NY 14623 Affiliation: Student.  Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:17:47 EDT From: Svetoslav Agafonkin@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FRO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725760.051027.FRO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 27 OCT 2005 1317-EDT From: "Svetoslav Agafonkin" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Svetoslav Agafonkin From net site 217.75.141.95 Purpose: Exploring ITS Address: +359889831460 Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:48:36 EDT From: David Meyer To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725745.051026.PAPA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi. A quick question I couldn't find the answer to in INFO: Is there a way to control scrolling of long texts on my terminal, like ^S/^Q on TOPS-20?  Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:35:25 EDT From: David Meyer@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PAPA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725741.051025.PAPA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 OCT 2005 0535-EDT From: "David Meyer" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: David Meyer From net site 133.213.5.223 Purpose: To experience how ancient hackers lived. Address: +81 797 86 3072 Mefu 4-3-30-2106, Takarazuka, Hyogo 665-0852 JapanAffiliation:  Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:38:17 EDT From: Cao Lei@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725731.051020.CL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 OCT 2005 1238-EDT From: "Cao Lei" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Cao Lei From net site 222.240.184.20 Purpose: try itsAddress: Affiliation:  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 11 Oct 2005 22:36:19 EDT Received: from magrathea.cosmic.com (magrathea.cosmic.com [66.92.65.110]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67655484 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by magrathea.cosmic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C04B1560C4; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20051011.223549.71097415.mirian@cosmic.com> To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: "mirian@cosmic.com"@FAMILJEN.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Re: did you forget your password ? From: Craig M.Lennox In-Reply-To: <725716.051011.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> References: <725716.051011.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.1 on Emacs 21.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, Ashamed to admit I can't remember which password I used; I think it's been a couple of years. You probably saw all my failed login attempts earlier this afternoon. If you would reset it to something, I could supdup in very quickly and change it. thanks Mirian  Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:19:28 EDT From: Mike McMahon@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MMCM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725692.050924.MMCM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 SEP 2005 1419-EDT From: "Mike McMahon" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Mike McMahon From net site 24.60.171.143 Purpose: Checking that I am not missing any recent ITS fixes.Address: +1-617-731-2506 408 Hammond Street Chestnut Hill, MA 02467 USAAffiliation:  Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:58:31 EDT From: Gary Palter@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GMP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725678.050918.GMP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 18 SEP 2005 1258-EDT From: "Gary Palter" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Gary Palter From net site 208.177.192.28 Purpose: Nostolgia Address: 617-947-0536 12 Schirmer Rd. West Roxbury, MA Affiliation: MIT AI Lab  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 14 Aug 2005 18:42:58 EDT Received: from colibri.its.uu.se (colibri.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.154]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0B554CD for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 211) id 4C5C27AE; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:42:19 +0200 (DFT) Received: from colibri.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by colibri.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s14350; Mon, 15 Aug 05 00:42:13 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7752D79A for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:42:13 +0200 (DFT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A7944034 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:42:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01708-01-39 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.Update.UU.SE (UP.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.210]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id D412C440C7 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.UPDATE.UU.SE (its-up.update.uu.se [192.168.0.203]) by UP.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id 7963875A81 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:13:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Bjorn Victor Subject: Nyhet To: paul@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE Message-ID: <1393.050812.VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE> Testa g{rna den senaste utvidgningen av webservern: dynamiska sidor. (Se t.ex. http://up.update.uu.se/status%20ulml). Gulligt? -- Bj|rn  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 10 Aug 2005 16:44:37 EDT Received: from elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se [130.238.164.5]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC13754CB for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 204) id 21F6130C; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:21 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se via virus-scan id s26636; Wed, 10 Aug 05 22:43:17 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9D42E5 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:17 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF6D44009 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07805-01 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.Update.UU.SE (UP.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.210]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7ED44008 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.UPDATE.UU.SE (its-up.update.uu.se [192.168.0.203]) by UP.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EE3A273AD for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:42:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:43:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Bjorn Victor Subject: Mail@UP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE In-reply-to: Msg of Wed 10 Aug 2005 16:37:06 EDT from Paul Svensson Message-ID: <1370.050810.VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE> Ja, det {r skoj! Jag fixade ocks} konfigurerbar tidszon, men har inte patchat/kompilerat om alla program {n... KLH;OUT skriver nu RFC-datum med RFC2822-tidzoner ocks} (se headern). Patcharna finns i UP:PATCH;. Och Java-supdupen har till sist f}tt motsvarande hack som C-supdupen, dvs att den skickar en "keep-alive" varannan minut eller s}, s} att man inte kopplas ner. MMcM fixade SAIL-teckenset, det {r gulligt. Och du har v{l sett web-appleten f|r att logga in p} UP? :-) -- Bj|rn  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 10 Aug 2005 17:14:11 EDT Received: from elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se [130.238.164.5]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9881D54CB for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 204) id 765751B4; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:42 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se via virus-scan id s26690; Wed, 10 Aug 05 23:12:40 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by elvira.ekonomikum.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0323E1B4 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:39 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id E484B44009 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02274-02-8 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.Update.UU.SE (UP.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.210]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908F944008 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.UPDATE.UU.SE (its-up.update.uu.se [192.168.0.203]) by UP.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id BF06C75A8F for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Bjorn Victor Subject: PAUL@UP To: paul@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE Message-ID: <1374.050810.VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE> Nu finns du!  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 9 Aug 2005 08:13:27 EDT Received: from colibri.its.uu.se (colibri.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.154]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E46954CF for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 08:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 211) id F03D41E3; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:34 +0200 (DFT) Received: from colibri.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by colibri.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s14348; Tue, 9 Aug 05 14:12:28 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20E81E3 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:28 +0200 (DFT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BAE44003 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30355-01-35 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.Update.UU.SE (UP.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.210]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3522D44002 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UP.UPDATE.UU.SE (its-up.update.uu.se [192.168.0.203]) by UP.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id D7162273AD for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:13:02 EDT From: Bjorn Victor Subject: Mail@UP To: paul@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE Message-ID: <1359.050809.VICTOR@UP.UPDATE.UU.SE> Wow, nu verkar det funka! -- Bj|rn  Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:35:21 EDT From: johan bockgard@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: BOJOHA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725582.050721.BOJOHA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 JUL 2005 1835-EDT From: "johan bockgard" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: johan bockgard From net site 193.11.222.167 Purpose: emacs Address: Affiliation: student  Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:53:02 EDT From: Daniel Haanpaa@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DANH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725571.050719.DANH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 JUL 2005 1553-EDT From: "Daniel Haanpaa" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Daniel Haanpaa From net site 24.205.219.27 Purpose: Research about ITS Address: 1 555 1212 NO POSTAL ADDRESS Affiliation: DANTEKCS.NET  Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:25:45 EDT From: NICHOLAS ACCAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ACCAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725562.050717.ACCAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 17 JUL 2005 1525-EDT From: "NICHOLAS ACCAD" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: NICHOLAS ACCAD From net site 209.71.198.8 Purpose: LEARNING Address: 514-244-0706 9000-388 ST. JACQUES MONTREAL QUEBEC H2Y 1S1 CANADA Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:16:31 EDT From: Pawel Lasek@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PLASEK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725553.050712.PLASEK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 12 JUL 2005 0916-EDT From: "Pawel Lasek" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Pawel Lasek From net site 83.25.237.74 Purpose: Learning ITS and exploring it.Address: +480601653019Affiliation: Student  Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:04:35 EDT From: BUGGY-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: PWORD crash file To: BUG-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725540.050703.BUGGY-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> There is a crash file to examine. Error message: Program missing Error code: 0  Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:45:06 EDT From: Charles Forrest Black@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PHORIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725527.050626.PHORIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 26 JUN 2005 0245-EDT From: "Charles Forrest Black" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Charles Forrest Black From net site 68.35.29.243 Purpose: exploration of ancient user interface Address: 505 995 4479 Forrest c/o NCGR Systems, 2935 Rodeo Park Drive East, Santa Fe, NM, 87505 USA Affiliation: Religious? Professional? Hmmm...   Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:58:40 EDT From: Zachary Kline@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ZKLINE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725512.050619.ZKLINE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 JUN 2005 2358-EDT From: "Zachary Kline" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Zachary Kline From net site 71.111.96.181 Purpose: Learning about ITS and old hardware and software. Address:3057 SW SChaeffer RD  Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:56:02 EDT From: Edward Brocklesby@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: EJB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725347.030918.EJB@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 18 SEP 2003 2056-EDT From: "Edward Brocklesby" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Edward Brocklesby From net site 80.235.142.35 Purpose: Experimentation Address: +44 7881530529, 36 ford park road, plymouth pl4 6nu england Affiliation: None  Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:21:17 EDT From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MALAND@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725295.030821.MALAND@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 AUG 2003 2321-EDT From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 68.108.5.225 Purpose: playing around and experimenting with ITS Address: Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:41:23 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725239.030717.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi I'll be offline for two weeks, until August 4. Cheers, Florian  Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:39:19 EDT From: Matthew J. Lecin@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MACBAI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725220.030711.MACBAI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 11 JUL 2003 0739-EDT From: "Matthew J. Lecin" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Matthew J. Lecin From net site 192.128.167.33 Purpose: Nostalgic reflection - I was an ITS user on AI, MC, ML, and DM (I was allowed to read my MAIL on DM!) back in the late '70s. Address: home: 732-563-1029 cell: 732-754-6675 work: 973-644-1570 362 Cherry Avenue Bound Brook, NJ 08805 Affiliation: Old MDL hacker, though it's been over 20 years. I created the best Zork map ever (ask PDL!)  Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:13:10 EDT From: Andrew Sylvia@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: AS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725203.030707.AS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 7 JUL 2003 0613-EDT From: "Andrew Sylvia" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andrew Sylvia From net site 207.5.158.137 Purpose: learning, nostalgia Address: 207 725 9380 18 old farm rd topsham, me 04086 Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:12:54 EDT From: "Arlo D. Gittings, III." To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725185.030702.KONI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> When you get a minute, I have a couple of questions about my login file. 1: is the '$' character == ^[ on other systems or is it a literal '$'? 2: Whenever I attempt to use valrets in my login it hangs until I disown the process (see 1 :)), I could not make heads or tails from the docs on the webpage. 3: CRTSTY causes multiple logins simultaneously, is this normal? I did not see any switches to disable this function so am using aaa emulation. Oh, this is a beautiful box. . . thanks for keeping it up. --pk ,  Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:21:26 EDT From: Arlo Gittings@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KONI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725171.030630.KONI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 30 JUN 2003 1921-EDT From: "Arlo Gittings" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Arlo Gittings From net site 208.207.96.161 Purpose: Learning the ways of the greatest operating system ever devised. The old ways must be preserved, and I would like to be a part of that effort in any way I can. Plus this will improve my score on the hacker quiz :) --pkAddress: 1-314-997-0300(work) 6749 alabama St. Louis MO 63111 Affiliation: seeker  Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:41 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725153.030624.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul The supdup client is now quite usable. I fixed the terminfo support; it turns out the supdup client was using an obsoete termcap to query for xterm-style meta, which modern termcaps and terminfos will interpret as a formatting code, hence the broken display. Compiles under Linux (just the supdup target, of course) and under FreeBSD (supdup target; after removing -lresolve). Maybe I'll hack the supdup server next. BTW, do you know whether the ITS-LOVERS mailing list ist still active, and if so, whether this supdup hackery would be of interest to them? Cheers, Florian  Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:33:13 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725152.030624.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul, Thanks for the login! So, my quick-hack-posixised supdup client compiles on FBSD. The display is broken in the same way as on Linux. So I'll have to hack the temcap handling as well. The original 4.2BSD version compiles (modulo -lresolve) out of the box, as well; and display is broken in the same way. So I assume that it really is the termcap stuff and not my sgtty hacks. I'll work on it some more. Cheers, Florian  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 23 Jun 2003 17:34:25 EDT Received: from mail02.agrinet.ch (mail02.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.51]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D726B47FF for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cicciolina.localdomain.localnet (213.202.37.52) by mail02.agrinet.ch (7.0.016.2) (authenticated as fweps@greenmail.ch) id 3EF0E1F00003411E; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:32:52 +0200 Received: from fmw by cicciolina.localdomain.localnet with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19UYvh-0001vC-00; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:32:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:32:49 +0200 From: "Florian M. Weps" To: security@svensson.org Cc: paul@its.svensson.org Subject: [FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG: RE: SUPDUP] Message-ID: <20030623213249.GA7319@dyn-cust.222.35.202.213.quicknet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: "Florian M. Weps" --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi May I kindly ask for an account on a BSD box, for testing SUPDUP and for file transfer to SV? I'd prefer login "fmw", if at all possible. Paul is in favour of this arrangement: see the forwarded message. For the password, I can be reached by phone: +41 1 279 22 83 or you could send it by encrypted mail. My key is on the keyservers. GPG Key ID B34A0F1D Fprint 6FFC 6751 BBB8 0F60 C39D AB72 4A77 581C B34A 0F1D You can verify that my GPG key is in the Debian keyring by looking me up on http://db.debian.org/ Thanks, Florian ----- Forwarded message from "Paul Svensson" ----- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:11:07 EDT From: Paul Svensson Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:06:33 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" I don't have access to a FreeBSD box right now, so I can't test it. But my home box doesn't even run an FTP server... Send an email to security@svensson.org, tell her I want her to set up a login for you to test supdup. That should solve both problems :) /Paul ----- End forwarded message ----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+93IBSndYHLNKDx0RAt+QAJwNTHDBcBaiDv2SOWrY886SpgHUqQCgmrEG HhVfxPI7VRteHroYM3N+0Ag= =gcEe -----END PGP  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:06:33 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725143.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:40:43 EDT From: Paul Svensson I've produced some preliminary patches to the supdup client distributed with klh10: it compiles under Linux and seems to get the display mostly right. Kewl. Does it work with FreeBSD as well ? I don't know, but I was under the assumption that since the supdup code was written for 4.2BSD, it yould work on FBSD out of the box. The setting in the makefile and the supdup server banner line are for SunOS. I don't have access to a FreeBSD box right now, so I can't test it. Since I couldn't figure out how to upload something to SV, I put the patch on http://people.debian.org/~fmw/supdup-posixish.diff I've disabled uploads since ITS FTP is not password protected. (There's a project for you). Simply run the ftp client on SV instead. But my home box doesn't even run an FTP server... You'll need to trim the name a bit to fit tho... /Paul  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:07:55 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: Re: Linux SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725145.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:51:57 EDT From: Paul Svensson Got me thinking... is anyone maintaining the supdup code nowadays ? If there's no place to eventually get the patch into the distribution, then it would be better to make a complete tarball available somewhere on a more stable webserver than at SV, and joist point to it from here. I'll put it on my d.o page. If it stabilizes enough, I may make a Debian package of it. Cheers, Florian  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:33:26 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725140.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I've produced some preliminary patches to the supdup client distributed with klh10: it compiles under Linux and seems to get the display mostly right. Since I couldn't figure out how to upload something to SV, I put the patch on http://people.debian.org/~fmw/supdup-posixish.diff I'll hack on it some more when I have time. Cheers, Florian  Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:35:27 EDT From: Lucas Moore@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TURQ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725136.030622.TURQ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 JUN 2003 1135-EDT From: "Lucas Moore" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Lucas Moore From net site 24.107.112.30 Purpose: Nostalgia and learning about the past. Address: 636-343-4314; 685 Green Earth Dr. Apt G, Fenton MO 63026Affiliation: MOSLUG (www.moslug.org), IPLabs (www.ip-labs.org; not up yet).  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:18:54 EDT From: Andru Luvisi Sender: LUVIS0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725126.030621.LUVIS0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:21:18 EDT From: Paul Svensson >Alas, I am neither a compiler guru nor a competent ITS user. Compiling >a "Hello World" program just seemed like a fun thing to try to do. What language ? Sorry for being unclear. I was responding to your question about whether or not I wanted to work on the gcc or kcc port. >I am still trying to figure out my way around ITS. The info files are good, >if a bit incomplete here and there. And I refer often to the emails I >got on the its-lovers mailing list a while back. >Still, I seem to be making some progress... I managed to create myself a >plan. Maybe I'll put something of value into it one of these days. ;-) Way to go! >How would you feel about me telling others about SV? I am on a BBS >where there has been some talk recently about "ancient computing" and >I was thinking about mentioning SV, but I don't know how "public" you >consider the system to be or how many new tourists you want at once. If I get too many tourists, I'll might need tour guides. Consider yourself volunteered :) Sure thing. Is there anything resembling a bulletin board system on ITS? Are "System Announcements" the closest thing? >Oh yeah, I also figured out how to change my password, so it isn't >blank any more. Maybe I should learn RMAIL next... Rmail is easy, it's just EMACS. I'm getting it. Still, I have a couple issues left. When I delete a blank line with C-K my screen does not update. At first I didn't think it worked, but now I just need to press C-L to see the change. Is this a known issue? Do I need to do something special with crtsty to make it work properly? Currently I am doing ":crtsty vt100 speed 9600". Is there a built-in command to put the >'s in for you? Thanks, Andru  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:03:13 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: home directory To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: "fweps@greenmail.ch"@FAMILJEN.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725128.030621.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:35:11 EDT From: Paul Svensson You can use COMMON; for now I succeeded in setting my HSNAME to COMMON; (so :rmail &c work properly). It is done by setting the "file directories" field in inquir to "common@sv". Next, I'll set up an init file which starts up crtsty automatically. How about a wishlist item like "xterm support in its"? Cheers, Florian  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:16:31 EDT From: Thierry Dussuet@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LEDUDU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725124.030621.LEDUDU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 JUN 2003 0616-EDT From: "Thierry Dussuet" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Thierry Dussuet From net site 62.167.195.114 Purpose: I'd like to look at the ITS system, and maybe write some programs Address: 0041 78 813 64 51 Thierry Dussuet Im Zelgli 2 8259 Kaltenbach Affiliation: Student  Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:01:31 EDT From: Andru Luvisi To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725118.030620.LUVISI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Alas, I am neither a compiler guru nor a competent ITS user. Compiling a "Hello World" program just seemed like a fun thing to try to do. I am still trying to figure out my way around ITS. The info files are good, if a bit incomplete here and there. And I refer often to the emails I got on the its-lovers mailing list a while back. Still, I seem to be making some progress... I managed to create myself a plan. Maybe I'll put something of value into it one of these days. ;-) How would you feel about me telling others about SV? I am on a BBS where there has been some talk recently about "ancient computing" and I was thinking about mentioning SV, but I don't know how "public" you consider the system to be or how many new tourists you want at once. Oh yeah, I also figured out how to change my password, so it isn't blank any more. Maybe I should learn RMAIL next... ... or some more PDP-10 assembly. Thanks for running SV. I'm having a lot of fun, Andru  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:54:11 EDT From: Eddie Croasdell@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DRB0B@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725083.030605.DRB0B@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 5 JUN 2003 1554-EDT From: "Eddie Croasdell" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Eddie Croasdell From net site 81.76.211.119 Purpose: I've just install ITS under klh10 on my own machine. I'd like access to a real live system to learn a bit more about it. Address: +441618819544 135 Eagle Court Dudley Close Manchester England M15 9EQ Affiliation: none  Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 01:40:50 EDT From: Jordan Mulcahey@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JORDY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725067.030601.JORDY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 1 JUN 2003 0140-EDT From: "Jordan Mulcahey" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Jordan Mulcahey From net site 68.108.5.225 Purpose: Using ITS. Introduction to ITS, too young to use it back then. Projects, when I learn enough. Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 06:14:21 EDT From: Eric Josephson@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ERICJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725048.030524.ERICJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 MAY 2003 0614-EDT From: "Eric Josephson" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Eric Josephson From net site 66.93.76.31 Purpose: I want to see a working ITS system because I'm having trouble getting simh beyond the minsys stage. Seemed like it would be easier just to log in here than to build klh10. Address: +1.206.324.0365 Eric Josephson 1404 E. Fir St. Seattle, WA 98122 Affiliation: Affiliation with what?  Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:53:41 EDT From: Pete Fenelon@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PF@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725018.030509.PF@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 9 MAY 2003 1053-EDT From: "Pete Fenelon" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Pete Fenelon From net site 217.206.223.142 Purpose: ITS demo Address: +44 1904 562585 Pete Fenelon c/o LiveDevices Ltd Link Business Park Osbaldwick Link Road Osbaldwick York YO10 3JB United Kingdom Affiliation:  Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 03:06:19 EDT From: ryan yeske@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RCYESK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724996.030503.RCYESK@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 3 MAY 2003 0306-EDT From: "ryan yeske" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: ryan yeske From net site 207.6.110.160 Purpose: learning about its Address: 6042857411 203 1834 Pender St E Vancouver BC V5L 1W7 Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 14:58:53 EDT From: craig finseth@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724986.030501.FIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 1 MAY 2003 1458-EDT From: "craig finseth" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: craig finseth From net site 209.98.98.8 Purpose: relivign old times Address: 651-644-4027 1343 Lafond St Paul MN 55104 US Affiliation: Firwood Consulting, a one -person company (www.firwood.net)  Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 03:18:59 EDT From: Kojo Armand@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KOJO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724965.030425.KOJO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 APR 2003 0318-EDT From: "Kojo Armand" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Kojo Armand From net site 172.149.89.77 Purpose: figuring out what is it? just curious I have seen so Lisp files laying around and I was wondering if this was a lisp machine. I learnt Common Lisp a few mionsths ago. Address: Affiliation: none, just an internet lone ranger. Who else goes around lppooking and hunting froor a Lisp amahine at 3 AM?  Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 03:08:37 EST From: Bradley Ward Allen@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: OLMU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724908.030404.OLMU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 APR 2003 0308-EST From: "Bradley Ward Allen" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Bradley Ward Allen From net site 12.216.183.147 Purpose: Research to find out my old password for Ulmo, and check my files and my friend's files. Address: +1 515 490 3271 BRADLEY W ALLEN 3000 UNIVERSITY AVE APT 149 WEST DES MOINES IA 50266-1208 US email: ULMO@Q.NET Affiliation: ULMO@Q.NET  Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:27:30 EST From: Chris Smith@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CKS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724893.030331.CKS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 31 MAR 2003 1627-EST From: "Chris Smith" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Chris Smith From net site 12.238.193.3 Purpose: Exploration, old times' sake, etc Address: 972 497-4504 1408 Stoneboro Richardson TX 75082 USA Affiliation: None relvant  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:10:03 EST From: john adughep@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ALVAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724866.030324.ALVAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 MAR 2003 1310-EST From: "john adughep" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: john adughep From net site 80.97.150.46 Purpose: to learn how to hack and to improve my skills Address: Affiliation: my afifliation is to be and have more experience:))  Received: from familjen.svensson.org (TCP 10010131472) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 24 Mar 2003 09:40:45 EST Received: from Tempo.Update.UU.SE (Tempo.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.17]) by familjen.svensson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0359FB47FC for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tempo.Update.UU.SE (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by Tempo.Update.UU.SE (8.12.8/8.12.8/Update-Iltempogigante) with ESMTP id h2OEe3mt001029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:40:03 +0100 Received: from localhost (ante@localhost) by Tempo.Update.UU.SE (8.12.8/8.12.8/Update-Iltempogigante-submit) with ESMTP id h2OEe3ok000945; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:40:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: Tempo.Update.UU.SE: ante owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:40:02 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Paul Svensson Cc: "ante@update.uu.se"@FAMILJEN.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Re: ITS In-Reply-To: <724860.030324.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Paul Svensson wrote: > Gomorron, > du kan logga in nu, uname LAD. Ok, tack! Skrev jag min e-post adress ocks=E5? Det mindes jag inte. /andreas =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Emacs =3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =09=09=09mail: ante@update.uu.se =09=09 =09or try: Koraq@yahoo.com groove out at: http://www.update.uu.se/~ante/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The choice of a GNU generation! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:17:51 EST From: Andreas Davour@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CYMEW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724852.030324.CYMEW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 MAR 2003 0517-EST From: "Andreas Davour" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andreas Davour From net site 213.116.224.228 Purpose: ITS Address: Affiliation: exit  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:21:40 EST From: Andreas Davour@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724855.030324.LAD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 24 MAR 2003 0521-EST From: "Andreas Davour" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andreas Davour From net site 213.116.224.228 Purpose: ITS revival interewst and historical interest. Address: +46(0)18 50 33 39 Studentv.36: Date: 19 MAR 2003 0721-EST From: "john adughep" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: john adughep From net site 194.102.164.107 Purpose: for learning how tu use freebsdAddress: i dont have one Affiliation: begginer on freebdsd  Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:37:07 EST From: Jesper Harder@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: HARDER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724790.030222.HARDER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 FEB 2003 1537-EST From: "Jesper Harder" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Jesper Harder From net site 195.249.82.189 Purpose: Trying EMACS. Address: 75172813. Gabelsparken 69, dk-6740 Bramming.Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:27:37 EST From: vaxen var@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PERSEU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724783.030219.PERSEU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 FEB 2003 1527-EST From: "vaxen var" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: vaxen var From net site 67.33.253.43 Purpose: information and funAddress: vaxen var 601 greer creek road westminster, sc 864-647-4742 Affiliation: no affiliation just similar vibratiom  Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:54:23 EST From: John R. Strohm@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: STROHM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724770.030214.STROHM@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 FEB 2003 2254-EST From: "John R. Strohm" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: John R. Strohm From net site 207.136.53.143 Purpose: General hacking of ITS - looking around Address: (214)692-9026 John R. Strohm 6031 Pineland #1803 Dallas TX 75231 Affiliation: none in particular  Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:50:34 EST From: Jimi Plouffe@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JIMI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724775.030216.JIMI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 FEB 2003 2250-EST From: "Jimi Plouffe" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Jimi Plouffe From net site 68.83.196.231 Purpose: Address: 4340235 Affiliation:  Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:37:37 EST From: Sean Case@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GSC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724738.030131.GSC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 31 JAN 2003 0237-EST From: "Sean Case" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Sean Case From net site 61.8.12.59 Purpose: Self-educationAddress: +61-4-0385 6628 PO Box 3053 Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Affiliation: none  Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:23:25 EST From: Magnus J Olsson@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JMO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724730.030128.JMO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 JAN 2003 1022-EST From: "Magnus J Olsson" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Magnus J Olsson From net site FAMILJEN.SVENSSON.ORG Purpose: Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:41:16 EST From: Cisco Garcia@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: CISCO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724722.030126.CISCO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 26 JAN 2003 1641-EST From: "Cisco Garcia" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Cisco Garcia From net site 209.69.222.50 Purpose: understanding ITS Address: 1(734) 434 9137 2529 Southlawn ypsilanti MI 48197 Affiliation: nil  Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:05:33 EST From: Bijan Soleymani@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: BIJAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724717.030125.BIJAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 JAN 2003 1805-EST From: "Bijan Soleymani" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Bijan Soleymani From net site 24.201.123.149 Purpose: To learn about ITS. Maybe do some assembly programming for the PDP-10.Address: 514-630-9962 280 Grosvenor, Beaconsfield, Quebec, H9W 1S5, Canada Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:39:11 EST From: Nick@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: OOBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724710.030123.OOBEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 23 JAN 2003 0939-EST From: "Nick" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Nick From net site 67.35.148.124 Purpose: Learning ITS Address: xxx-xxx-xxxxAffiliation: Student  Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:23:06 EST From: jody stonestreet@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JOED@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724694.030122.JOED@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 JAN 2003 0023-EST From: "jody stonestreet" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: jody stonestreet From net site 216.145.84.121 Purpose: for educational purposes i.e. to learn more :)Address: (423) 753-7649 111 terrace ct. apt. b johnson city, TN 37601 Affiliation: nonr none  Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:27:30 EST From: Bill M@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TMH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724698.030122.TMH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 22 JAN 2003 0727-EST From: "Bill M" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Bill M From net site 210.234.135.62 Purpose: testing Address: n/aAffiliation: none  Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:07:56 EST From: iain hardcastle@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: IAIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724690.030121.IAIN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 JAN 2003 1207-EST From: "iain hardcastle" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: iain hardcastle From net site 209.25.35.94 Purpose: test Address: 13 hw Affiliation:  Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:35:10 EST From: Gene Michael Stover@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: GSTOVE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724672.030119.GSTOVE@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 JAN 2003 1635-EST From: "Gene Michael Stover" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Gene Michael Stover From net site 66.93.76.249 Purpose: Learning ITS. In computer histories, I have read about it, but I have not had the pelasure of using it. I just wanna see what it's all about. Address: phone 425-455-4735 postal: Gene Michael Stover apt 22 248 118th Ave SE Bellevue, WA 98005 USA Affiliation: I'm affiliated with my cats (Suizette & Leopold), & my girlfriend (Melissa). Any other affiliations are purely contractual, & therefore, immaginary & temporal.  Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:22:46 EST From: Dan Cross@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TENSER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724677.030120.TENSER@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 JAN 2003 1722-EST From: "Dan Cross" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Dan Cross From net site 160.39.246.25 Purpose: Just poking around Address: 917-686-3253 108 3rd Ave, Apt. 11 New York, NY 10003 Affiliation: Whatexit member  Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:30:53 EST From: Marc CZG@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MODIFY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724683.030120.MODIFY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 JAN 2003 2030-EST From: "Marc CZG" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Marc CZG From net site 67.116.231.135 Purpose: play around ... Address:  Affiliation:  Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:31:18 EST From: Andru Luvisi@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LUVISI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724651.030104.LUVISI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 JAN 2003 1731-EST From: "Andru Luvisi" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andru Luvisi From net site 130.157.64.143 Purpose: Playing with ITS. Address: 707-664-2880 1801 E. Cotati Ave. Rohnert Park, CA 94928 Affiliation: I'm not sure I understand the question.  Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:31:18 EST From: Andru Luvisi@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: LUVISI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724651.030104.LUVISI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 JAN 2003 1731-EST From: "Andru Luvisi" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Andru Luvisi From net site 130.157.64.143 Purpose: Playing with ITS. Address: 707-664-2880 1801 E. Cotati Ave. Rohnert Park, CA 94928 Affiliation: I'm not sure I understand the question.  Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:52:29 EST From: Robert Stratton@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: STRAT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724624.021228.STRAT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 DEC 2002 2152-EST From: "Robert Stratton" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Robert Stratton From net site 68.100.245.111 Purpose: Re-learning UUOs. Reminiscing. I used to be strat@AI Address: +1 703 850 5556 344 Maple Avenue West #266 Vienna, Virginia 22180 Affiliation: self  Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:06:29 EST From: Derek H. Peschel@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DHP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724616.021228.DHP@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 DEC 2002 1506-EST From: "Derek H. Peschel" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Derek H. Peschel From net site 67.250.140.176 Purpose: taking a quick look around ITS before I try to set it up on my own machineAddress: +1 (206) 770-0577 dpeschel@eskimo.comAffiliation: long-time computer hobbyist  Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:12:26 EDT From: Paul Svensson Sender: OSI1P@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724501.021011.OSI1P@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 11 OCT 2002 0512-EDT From: "Paul Traina" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Paul Traina From net site 63.199.168.251 Purpose: Hacking lisp for GJS Address: 650-473-9438 / osi1p@spamcatcher.bogus.com yes, that's a real e-mail address Affiliation: Former AI tourist, LCS guest, and DM hacker (WJN's apprentice)  Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:50:37 EDT From: Ruliz@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724491.021009.RULIZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 9 OCT 2002 1850-EDT From: "Ruliz" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ruliz From net site 212.120.98.4 Purpose: funAddress: killspy@roelisch.tmfweb.nl Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:54:44 EDT From: BUGGY-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: PWORD crash file To: BUG-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724492.021009.BUGGY-PWORD@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> There is a crash file to examine. Error message: Program missing Error code: 0  Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:39:06 EDT From: Filippo Zangheri@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: FILLO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724475.021009.FILLO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 9 OCT 2002 0839-EDT From: "Filippo Zangheri" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Filippo Zangheri From net site 151.26.132.130 Purpose: studyAddress: tel: +39 329 4003631 mail: via colli, 9/a Viserbella 47811 Italy Affiliation: student  Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:55:14 EDT From: Thomas Berger@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: TBXCX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724450.021003.TBXCX@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 3 OCT 2002 0755-EDT From: "Thomas Berger" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Thomas Berger From net site 217.81.24.86 Purpose: I want to try out ITSAddress: +492202945371 Reuterstr. 53 51465 Bergisch Gladbach GermanyAffiliation:  Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:44:32 EDT From: Ignatios Souvatzis@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ISTEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724438.020929.ISTEN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 29 SEP 2002 1644-EDT From: "Ignatios Souvatzis" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ignatios Souvatzis From net site 80.142.51.30 Purpose: Look around in ITS a bit, as I'm interested in hystoric computers. Address: +49 228 73 4316; Bonn University, CS Dept. , Chair 5, Roemerstr. 164, 53117 Bonn, Germany Affiliation: Bonn University  Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:56:30 EDT From: Donald Fisk Subject: Our personal details are on the internet! To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724319.020617.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:37:41 EDT From: Paul Svensson You wrote: >While googling for "Donald Fisk" and hibou, I ran >into this page: http://its.svensson.org/PAUL%3BPAUL%20XMAIL >which contains all our personal details plus the mail >messages we've been sending to each other. Would it not >be better to keep this file (PAUL;PAUL XMAIL) offline? Maybe you can put a few words of warning into HACK;SV NEWS, and/or cook up a .WWW.;ROBOTS .TXT file ? I've done that. RU sure about the conversion between ITS and Unix filename formats? I don't know how the others feel, but I'd like to keep most stuff visible, so rather than hiding everything I think we should only hide what things like our RL addresses,etc. /Paul Donald  Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:27:47 EDT From: Donald Fisk Subject: Our personal details are on the internet! To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724317.020617.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> While googling for "Donald Fisk" and hibou, I ran into this page: http://its.svensson.org/PAUL%3BPAUL%20XMAIL which contains all our personal details plus the mail messages we've been sending to each other. Would it not be better to keep this file (PAUL;PAUL XMAIL) offline? Regards, Donald  Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:42:53 EDT From: Joel Ray Holveck@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JOELH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724310.020614.JOELH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 14 JUN 2002 2242-EDT From: "Joel Ray Holveck" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Joel Ray Holveck From net site 207.17.136.129 Purpose: Touristy stuff Address: 408-730-8515 5021 Blue Grama Trl San Angelo, TX 76904 Affiliation: None  Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 05:48:22 EDT From: SERGIO PEDRAJA@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SPC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724288.020604.SPC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 JUN 2002 0548-EDT From: "SERGIO PEDRAJA" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: SERGIO PEDRAJA From net site 80.68.128.245 Purpose: FUN Address: Affiliation:  Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:38:36 EDT From: John Paul Wallington@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: JPW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724267.020528.JPW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 MAY 2002 2238-EDT From: "John Paul Wallington" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: John Paul Wallington From net site 217.135.69.58 Purpose: funAddress: 1 High Walk Fareham, Hants, PO15 6BS UK +44 (01329) 231758 Affiliation:  Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:05:13 EDT From: Dave Goel@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DEEGO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724273.020529.DEEGO@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 29 MAY 2002 1605-EDT From: "Dave Goel" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Dave Goel From net site 128.8.86.100 Purpose: Explore the legend of RMS :) and the ITS Address: (770) 531- 7752; 2601 Thompson Bridge Road NW #*H; Gainesville, GA 30501-1626, USA. Affiliation: GNU zealot.  Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:05:29 EDT From: Donald Fisk Subject: shrdlu To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724252.020520.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I've made a little more progress. It now loads, but there are still more bugs. These will involve me tracing through the Lisp code, which I'll do when I have time. Regards, Donald  Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:24:17 EDT From: Donald Fisk Subject: zork To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724248.020517.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> It's MDL. See www.mud.co.uk/richard/zork.htm We are missing an interpreter/compiler for this.  Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:23:41 EDT From: Donald Fisk To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724246.020517.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> There's a version of zork for its st simh.trailing-edge.com It's in a lisp-like language, but with < > instead of ( ). Do you know anything about this?  Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:01:08 EDT From: Donald Fisk To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724242.020515.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Made some progress with shrdlu last night. One of the files has been corrupted, but is not in too bad a state, and SHRDLU itself is very memory hungry. Some of the folks overa t comp.lang.lisp have now got it working after conversion to common lisp. I'll send you a tarball when I get it working.  Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:42:53 EDT From: Ulf Harnhammar@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: ULFH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724234.020512.ULFH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 12 MAY 2002 1342-EDT From: "Ulf Harnhammar" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ulf Harnhammar From net site 213.64.177.140 Purpose: learning about ITS Address: Tel: +46 8 7223962 Postal: Skontorpsvagen 69, 120 53 Arsta, Sweden Affiliation: Bahnhof Internet AB  Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:49:10 EDT From: Halfword, Left to Right, Zeros@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: HLRZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724225.020510.HLRZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 10 MAY 2002 1949-EDT From: "Halfword, Left to Right, Zeros" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Halfword, Left to Right, Zeros From net site 207.170.105.228 Purpose: losing halfwords left to right losing halfwords right to right losing them here, losing them there lossy garbage everywhere Address: 972-278 6519 HLRZ C/o Daniel Finster 2010 Cranford #32 Garland TX 75041 Affiliation: The Zeroed halfWord Entertaintment Incursion The 18-bit-pointer Preservation Society The Armed Peoples Symbolic Revolution Twisty mazes of cons cells, Inc. There is more garbage here than meets the eye Foundation They EVAL/APPLY Foundation The CAR of the CDR Revolutionary Front The Ancient PDP10 Hackers Wannabe Association etc  Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:59:50 EDT From: Donald Fisk To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724214.020507.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Thanks. I'd better not spend any time on it at work, so I'll play around with it at home over the next week or so. The lisp might need to be modified to run it but I'm not certain Donald  Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:07:59 EDT From: Donald Fisk To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724211.020507.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> The sources for SHRDLU are available at http://www.ont.com/~keldon/shrdlu.html Maclisp interpreters are apparently impossible to find these days (shurely shome mishtake), soK Keldon Jones is porting it to Common Lisp. I'll correfct him. There was already a link to TELSER BIN from the device you suggested. It appears to be a problem with pdimp -- I'll look into it forther when I have more time. Regards, Donald  Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:49:50 EDT From: Daniel Merritt@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: NI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724166.020408.NI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 APR 2002 1949-EDT From: "Daniel Merritt" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Daniel Merritt From net site 142.177.219.72 Purpose: Research Address: Gah! Affiliation: None. Student.  Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:46:35 EDT From: @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SUZURN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724147.020408.SUZURN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 APR 2002 0446-EDT From: "" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: From net site 12.221.50.126 Purpose: Hacking. Address: 309-699-3110 Affiliation: ojamajo-doremi.umtec.com  Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:47:57 EDT From: Craig Hawco@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: DEST@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 13 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724151.020408.DEST@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 APR 2002 0447-EDT From: "Craig Hawco" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Craig Hawco From net site 24.222.80.87 Purpose: To learn Address: 902 562 1461 18 Carang Dr Sydney, NS B1S 3B7 Canada Affiliation: None  Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:13:32 EDT From: Kent Overstreet@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KENT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724142.020408.KENT@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 APR 2002 0413-EDT From: "Kent Overstreet" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Kent Overstreet From net site 24.237.121.190 Purpose: Learning ITS, i guess Address: 907-830-6352 Affiliation:  Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:29:32 EST From: Ed Schwalenberg@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: EDSCH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724133.020404.EDSCH@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 4 APR 2002 1529-EST From: "Ed Schwalenberg" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ed Schwalenberg From net site 199.232.133.193 Purpose: Remembering ITS history. Address: +1 781 648 3386 19 Wyman Street Arlington, MA 02474-6805 ed@basistech.com Affiliation: Former AI user (ED@AI; I wish I could get that login back!)  Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:16:44 EST From: Ken Stailey@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KES@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724104.020319.KES@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 19 MAR 2002 1616-EST From: "Ken Stailey" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Ken Stailey From net site 198.80.171.28 Purpose: development Address: 301-270-2207 925 Sligo Creek Pkw Takoma Park, MD 20912-5810 Affiliation: Self  Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 14:58:04 EST From: Kalman Reti@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RETI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724095.020316.RETI@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 16 MAR 2002 1458-EST From: "Kalman Reti" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Kalman Reti From net site 128.52.33.16 Purpose: Assuage my curiosity about ITS Address: 617-529-6525 17 Harding Street W. Newton, MA 02465 Affiliation: Consultant, have helped out on AI Lab projects at the AI Lab in the past few years.  Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:11:32 EST From: Peder @ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: PPN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724089.020315.PPN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 15 MAR 2002 1611-EST From: "Peder " To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Peder From net site 213.65.57.37 Purpose: 'test Address: Affiliation:  Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:15:24 EST From: Mirian Crzig Lennox@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: MIRIAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724060.020303.MIRIAN@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 3 MAR 2002 0915-EST From: "Mirian Crzig Lennox" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Mirian Crzig Lennox From net site 209.58.189.187 Purpose: To To participate in the development of ITS. Address: +1 617 594 5258 Mirian Crzig Lennox 178 Chestnut Ave. #2 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130-4408 USA Affiliation: Co-founder of the Cosmic Computing Corporation, Maintainer of the its-hackers mailing list (its-hackers@cosmic.com).  Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:08:25 EST From: ignatios souvatzis@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: IS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724073.020308.IS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 8 MAR 2002 0808-EST From: "ignatios souvatzis" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: ignatios souvatzis From net site 131.220.4.200 Purpose: learning about ITS Address: +49 228 73 4316 Ignatios Souvatzis, Roemerstr. 164, 53117 Bonn, Germany Affiliation: Bonn University, CS Department  Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:39:08 EST From: Karl Ramm@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: KCR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <724050.020301.KCR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 1 MAR 2002 1339-EST From: "Karl Ramm" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Karl Ramm From net site 18.101.1.49 Purpose: poking at a working ITS under KLH10 Address: +1 617 230 3400 (cell) 89 Plymouth St. Cambridge , MA 02141 Affiliation: Metacarta, Inc.  Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:13:37 EST From: Peter Backes@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RTC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723952.020128.RTC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 28 JAN 2002 2013-EST From: "Peter Backes" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Peter Backes From net site 217.24.231.33 Purpose: Inspiration for my own ITS system Address: Affiliation: PLASMA  To:klh@panix.com Cc:david-moon@rcn.com,Alan@LCS.MIT.EDU,PdeC@ieee.org Bcc:paul-its@svensson.org Subject:Re: KLH10 enhancement suggestion --Text follows this line-- (hope COMSAT doesn't truncate this mail now) Ken wrote: >Paul wrote: >> Since it seems to be a significant effort to get the network time stuff in ITS >> to do its thing in the modern world, but there's a good chance that the host >> running the emulator has a good notion of time, it would be useful if either: >> >> the ini file had an option to round the timebase offset to whole hours; >> or, you could provide instructions (or a script) to pre-set APR.TIMEBASE. >Hmmm. >A KL10 works out of the box because the DTE protocol specifies a >canonical date/time format, but the KS10 never had any equivalent. >I have not thought about rigging up something similar for ITS because >:PDSET only needs to be run once the first time you install the ITS >filesystem. ("Some assembly required " :-) >It's not a bad idea, and should be possible in principle, but would >require grokking exactly how ITS stores its timebase in the filesystem >and what it expects to see, and establishing some new convention for >the initial value in the emulated timebase counter. For a "canned" >filesystem like the one I made for PI ITS, this would work, but I >suspect you would still need to run PDSET every time you created a new >filesystem. Hmm... didn't quite realize it was that complicated. Looking at the code, trying to figure out how it works... The file holds 2 pdp10 words with an ITS datetime, and a struct timeval with the unix datetime. The functions tim_rdtim() and tim_wrtim() fiddle with this. The difference between the ITS datetime and unix datetime is never computed, but rather the difference between unix datetimes on consecutive calls is converted to a value to add to the ITS datetime. Ok, I see your point. I had a quick look at the sources for ITS and PDSET, but couldn't figure it out; couldn't find anything obvious in the UUO docs or on the web, either. Found some hints about asking Paul DeCoriolis, tho. >If you want to dig into this and come up with a specific proposal that >would be great. If necessary we can run it by the other people (Moon, >Alan, etc). Actually, what I'd really like would be to have NETIME work, I just figured this might most of the result for a lot less effort. Well, maybe not then... >> Btw, KLH10 is most fun I've had with computers since I got to play with >> a real KS back in the eighties :) >Glad to hear it. You've been doing some pretty cool stuff with your >system! We need to get you something faster... INQUIR@SV knows my shipping address ;) Unfortunately, a faster box wouldn't help the slow network; business grade (i.e. fixed IP#) DSL is not available here, and $700+/month for a T1 is way beyond my budget :( Besides, the machine I'm hosting SV on has a red |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| on the front. ;) /Paul  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:26:20 EST From: Donald Fisk To: BUG-COMPLR@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723870.020107.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> There's a Y2K bug which manifests itself in the UNFASL files generated by :COMPLR -- ^R HIBOU;TETRIS UNFASL to see this.  Received: from mail1.panix.com (TCP 24625000324) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 5 Jan 2002 03:11:41 EST Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0C84883D; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from klh@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.3nb1/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id g058BQF25123; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:11:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 3:11:25 EST From: Ken Harrenstien To: Alan Bawden Cc: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG, klh@panix.com, david-moon@rcn.com, PdeC@ieee.org Subject: Re: KLH10 enhancement suggestion In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:36:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: > But I must be missing something here. Why doesn't the KLH10 RDTIM always > yield a time measured from some fixed epoch? I understand why a real KS10 > lost track of the time when you powered it off, but why can't the KLH10 do > better? (Then we could just fix ITS to know that it doesn't have to set > the time and kiss NETIME and PDSET goodbye.) Well, that's why. None of us was eager to modify ITS any more than necessary to get things working. Of course, if someone wants to "fix" ITS then anything is possible. You can interpret RDTIM on a KN10 processor as providing an actual realtime from some arbitrarily defined epoch. Or read a bunch of values from the KLH10-specific HOST device which will provide you with all of the context information you need, eg realtime+timezone, ITS name in sixbit, net config (address, netmask, gateway, etc). > Is it because Tops-20 expects > RDTIM to start counting from zero? I'm pretty sure the processor manual > said that you couldn't count on -anything- about the initial value of > RDTIM, which is why I played that elaborate game with putting <1729.> in > the top 18 bits as a signal that the clock had been set. AFAIK both T10/T20 on the KS10 require setting the date/time on every reboot. (The KL10 gets it via DTE from the front-end 11). What you did for ITS is really quite clever and useful. > But if we have to set the time from the network, why not replace NETIME > with a much simpler program that just opens a TCP connection back to port > 37 on the host machine? A TCP/IP version of NETIME would certainly be a good thing to have, but it's one more thing to configure since you don't know ahead of time what IP address(es) to use. Plus the ITS IP code never had multicast/broadcast hooks in it since the only interfaces available were for IMPs, not ethernets. (You know, we *could* map the Chaosnet interface onto ethernet... :-) --Ken  Received: from snowview.camellia.org (TCP 30634730340) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 5 Jan 2002 01:37:45 EST Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowview.camellia.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Erasmus) id BAA27310; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:36:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alan@snowview.camellia.org) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:36:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5Jan2002.010046.Alan@LCS.MIT.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Alan Bawden Sender: Alan@LCS.MIT.EDU To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG, klh@panix.com, david-moon@rcn.com, PdeC@ieee.org In-reply-to: <723859.020104.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> (message from Paul Svensson on Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:25:47 EST) Subject: Re: KLH10 enhancement suggestion References: <723859.020104.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:25:47 EST From: Paul Svensson ... Actually, what I'd really like would be to have NETIME work, I had fun writing NETIME, but it only knows how to use the Chaosnet TIME protocol, and Chaosnet connectivity isn't something you're going to have any time soon. I just figured this might most of the result for a lot less effort. Well, maybe not then... But I must be missing something here. Why doesn't the KLH10 RDTIM always yield a time measured from some fixed epoch? I understand why a real KS10 lost track of the time when you powered it off, but why can't the KLH10 do better? (Then we could just fix ITS to know that it doesn't have to set the time and kiss NETIME and PDSET goodbye.) Is it because Tops-20 expects RDTIM to start counting from zero? I'm pretty sure the processor manual said that you couldn't count on -anything- about the initial value of RDTIM, which is why I played that elaborate game with putting <1729.> in the top 18 bits as a signal that the clock had been set. But if we have to set the time from the network, why not replace NETIME with a much simpler program that just opens a TCP connection back to port 37 on the host machine?  Received: from mail1.panix.com (TCP 24625000324) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 4 Jan 2002 19:19:13 EST Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CE148727; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from klh@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.3nb1/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id g050J8h04414; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:19:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:19:08 EST From: Ken Harrenstien To: Paul Svensson Cc: klh@panix.com Subject: Re: KLH10 enhancement suggestion In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:21:15 EST Message-ID: > Since it seems to be a significant effort to get the network time stuff in ITS > to do its thing in the modern world, but there's a good chance that the host > running the emulator has a good notion of time, it would be useful if either: > > the ini file had an option to round the timebase offset to whole hours; > or, you could provide instructions (or a script) to pre-set APR.TIMEBASE. Hmmm. A KL10 works out of the box because the DTE protocol specifies a canonical date/time format, but the KS10 never had any equivalent. I have not thought about rigging up something similar for ITS because :PDSET only needs to be run once the first time you install the ITS filesystem. ("Some assembly required " :-) It's not a bad idea, and should be possible in principle, but would require grokking exactly how ITS stores its timebase in the filesystem and what it expects to see, and establishing some new convention for the initial value in the emulated timebase counter. For a "canned" filesystem like the one I made for PI ITS, this would work, but I suspect you would still need to run PDSET every time you created a new filesystem. If you want to dig into this and come up with a specific proposal that would be great. If necessary we can run it by the other people (Moon, Alan, etc). > Btw, KLH10 is most fun I've had with computers since I got to play with > a real KS back in the eighties :) Glad to hear it. You've been doing some pretty cool stuff with your system! We need to get you something faster... --Ken  Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:50:51 EST From: CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: SV@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723837.020102.CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> If you would like to try a version of INQUPD that probably works, install CSTACY;INQUPD BIN as INQUIR;INQUPD BIN. I'll be releaseing the real thing eventually, but I wouldn't mind if you tried out this one. It works on my system. I restored the LISP directory (only) on my system, and that's what makes INQUIR work there. Is that all you did on your sysetm? (Donald Fisk doesn't think that worked on his system.) Chris  Received: from franklin.ch (TCP 33150404007) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 1 Jan 2002 19:13:38 EST Received: (from neil@localhost) by franklin.ch (8.9.3/19991231-neil@franklin.ch) id BAA00381; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 01:13:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 01:13:21 +0100 Message-Id: <200201020013.BAA00381@franklin.ch> From: Neil Franklin To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Cc: david@eos.lugs.ch In-reply-to: <723820.020101.PAUL0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> (message from Paul Svensson on Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:06:58 EST) Subject: Re: It would be cool to see an ITS around again ... References: <723820.020101.PAUL0@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Paul Svensson wrote: > > Did you check out http://its.svensson.org/ ? Never heard of it up until now. I immediately checked it out. KLH10 strikes again. Yow! Looks like something to investigate, as soon as I get some time free. Off into my links collection. Thanks for the tip. P.S. I just this evening mentioned to annother colleague (Cc:ing this to him) that ITS images have been found and people are trying to get them to run. And then I get an mail about one running on the net. BTW: I have a problem with the site: when going on the "online application" link (http://its.svensson.org/its.svensson.org) I get this: ------------ Unable to retrieve .ORG;ITS.SV ENSSON The web site you seek cannot be located but endless others exist SV .ORG;ITS.SV ENSSON TURNIP RYDIS PDB JNC KLOTZ ALAN CBF .MSGS. REHMI .WWW. SS SRA CSTACY .TEMP. SMJ ACOUNT BAWDEN VANDYS MID HIBOU DOC .LISP. X48 WL VAFB TEACH SYSNEW SCHEME SAIL S48 R PDP11 PCNET PASCAL OSCHEM NILCOM NIL NFS NETDOC MINSYS LSPSRC LSPMAN LSPMAI LSPDOC LSPDMP LSB1 LSB LMWIND LMWIN LMFONT LIBLSP LIBDOC L KLDCP KCC.SY KCC KA9Q HUMOR1 HUMOR FORMAT FONTS2 FONTS1 FONTS EMACS1 DRAW DOVUTL DIGEST DECSYS DATDRW DATCHK COMMON COMLAP CHSNCP BOLIO AI SYSTEM SYSNET SYSHST SYSEN2 SYSEN1 SYSDOC SYS3 CRASH MIDAS MAINT LISP KSHACK KSC KLH INQUIR INFO HACK EMACS C .TECO. .MAIL. .INFO. PAUL ANGELA .TAPE0 -PICS- SYS2 SYS1 DEVICE SYSENG DRAGON CHANNA BACKUP SYSBIN SYS . ------------- I suspect that to not be the intended result. When then clicking on EMACS1 (http://its.svensson.org/EMACS;) I then get: ------------- Unable to retrieve EMACS1 The web site you seek cannot be located but endless others exist SV .WWW. FREE BLOCKS #0=19539 #1=15531 #2=34565 2 ACCESS LOG 36 ! 1/1/102 18:59:48 2 MAIN 5 1 ! 12/12/101 18:00:22 2 MAIN 6 1 ! 12/12/101 18:00:55 2 MAIN 7 1 ! 12/12/101 18:12:54 2 MAIN 8 1 ! 12/20/101 06:52:21 2 MAIN 9 1 ! 12/20/101 06:53:37 ------------- And there MAIN (all 5 of them) goes back to the main page. I also notice that the ACCESS LOG shows about 50% Nimda virus accesses, to which this server is of course immune :-). -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery  Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:31:26 EST From: JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: CSTACY@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG, JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723765.011221.JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set CSTACY's password for him 'cause he forgot his ITS password. He's gonna look at the COMSAT problem for you at some point... Noel  Received: from ginger.lcs.mit.edu (TCP 2206400122) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 21 Dec 2001 13:05:51 EST Received: (from jnc@localhost) by ginger.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA11127; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:05:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:05:41 -0500 From: "J. Noel Chiappa" Message-Id: <200112211805.NAA11127@ginger.lcs.mit.edu> To: paul@its.svensson.org Subject: ITS password Cc: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu Goodness, I no longer have a clue what my ITS password was. What should I do? (And you can delete the application from 9JNC - I tried to apply for JNC, and it said it was already taken.) Noel  Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:02:29 EST From: J. Noel Chiappa@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: 9JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723746.011221.9JNC@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 DEC 2001 1302-EST From: "J. Noel Chiappa" <9JNC at MIT-SV> To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: J. Noel Chiappa From net site 24.23.148.239 PurITS hacking.  Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:03:59 EST From: Martin Rydstr|m@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RYDIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 14 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723749.011221.RYDIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 DEC 2001 1303-EST From: "Martin Rydstr|m" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Martin Rydstr|m From net site 129.16.79.56 Purpose: Learning a bit about ITS. I have heard a lot about it, but never had an opportunity to use it. It would be nice to try out a working system before trying to set one up myself. Address: +46 733 52 09 82 Martin Rydstr|m c/o Jartin Fyrkl|versgatan 68/202 G|teborg Affiliation: Chalmers Datorf|rening  Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:03:59 EST From: Martin Rydstr|m@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: RYDIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 14 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723749.011221.RYDIS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 21 DEC 2001 1303-EST From: "Martin Rydstr|m" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Martin Rydstr|m From net site 129.16.79.56 Purpose: Learning a bit about ITS. I have heard a lot about it, but never had an opportunity to use it. It would be nice to try out a working system before trying to set one up myself. Address: +46 733 52 09 82 Martin Rydstr|m c/o Jartin Fyrkl|versgatan 68/202 G|teborg Affiliation: Chalmers Datorf|rening  Received: from xfw.transarc.ibm.com (TCP 30015561063) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 21 Dec 2001 12:54:21 EST Received: from mailhost2.transarc.ibm.com (mailhost2.transarc.ibm.com [9.38.192.125]) by xfw.transarc.ibm.com (AIX4.3/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07054 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smithfield.transarc.ibm.com (smithfield.transarc.ibm.com [9.38.192.92]) by mailhost2.transarc.ibm.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id MAA10091 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:54:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Barron To: paul@its.svensson.org Subject: SV ITS ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Paul - 1) I just wanted to express my thanks to you for putting up SV, and making it available again. I logged in with my old username "PDB" (after spending some time remembering what my password might have been 10 years ago.... :-) ), and got right in. 2) You sent me a message when I logged in today. Unfortunately, my memory was a bit rusty about how to send interactive messages, and I'm not sure you got what I sent (and I wasn't able to get out if it afterwards, either... :-) I thought I remembered that "^_C USERNAME" was the right think, but couldn't get back to DDT afterwards... Anyway, in case you didn't get my response, didn't want you to think I was being rude or anything ... ;-) Take care, --Pat.  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:47:27 EST From: HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723719.011218.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I set a breakpoint at LDPRC in LISP, $P'ed until it was close to the MPV error, and then ^N'ed until it hit the error. The wallpaper output is in HIBOU;LISP TRACE if you want to have a look. I still don't know /why/ it's failing, but it might be a good idea to look for rarely used instructions executing prior to the failure. Another approach would be to do the same thing on SIMH 2.8, where ledit works, and see where the two execuion paths diverge. I read that SIMH 2.8 has single step.  Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (TCP 2201612523) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 20 Dec 2001 11:41:33 EST Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29782 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA07190 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lepton.media.mit.edu (fuggles.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.197.167]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA06235 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:41:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:41:10 -0500 From: Rehmi Post To: paul@its.svensson.org Subject: passwd nevermind Message-Id: <20011220114110.3b6af7c3.rehmi@media.mit.edu> Organization: MIT Media Lab X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I figured it out... Thanks for putting this up, Rehmi  Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (TCP 3044600617) by ITS.SVENSSON.ORG; 20 Dec 2001 21:13:22 EST Received: from mabuse (h08002be499ca.ne.mediaone.net [66.31.118.188]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fBL2D6914860 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:13:08 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Patrick G. Sobalvarro" To: Subject: SV password Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:12:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c189c4$f8649060$0201a8c0@mabuse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Hi, I saw your great hack. Very cool! I was one of the last maintainers of the AI machine, and wrote the ANSI and AAA terminal code for ITS. I tried various passwords I remembered from those days, but no dice. I'd love to use an ITS again for a little while -- could you set my password to "pgs" or something obvious like that? Thanks very much. Best regards, Patrick  Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 02:28:52 EST From: KLOTZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723735.011221.KLOTZ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Cool! It remembered my password. I created my directory again; I hope you don't mind. Thanks, Leigh Klotz. klotz@pahv.xerox.com klotz@graflex.org klotz@ai (c. 1979)  Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:38:03 EST From: Stephen Jones@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SMJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 14 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723724.011220.SMJ@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 20 DEC 2001 1127-EST From: "Stephen Jones" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Stephen Jones From net site 207.14.52.62 Purpose: Hacking Address: 206-999-9475 po box 61187 seattle wa 98121 Affiliation: SDF public access UNIX system  Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:09:33 EST From: Saku Setala@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: SS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 12 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723706.011211.SS@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 11 DEC 2001 0809-EST From: "Saku Setala" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Saku Setala From net site 193.229.0.5 Purpose: Practising ITS skills Address: +358-50-564-1855 saku@setala.net Affiliation: Old iron  Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:56:48 EST From: Donald Fisk@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Sender: HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Subject: Application from TTY 11 To: ACCOUNTS-NOTIFICATION@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <723641.011125.HIBOU@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: 25 NOV 2001 2256-EST From: "Donald Fisk" To: USER-ACCOUNTS at MIT-SV Name: Donald Fisk From net site 193.192.66.101 Purpose: Comparing with the ITS I run at home. Address: +44 20 8440 4679 86 Manor Road, Barnet Herts England UK Affiliation: None