Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:09:51 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725161.030626.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:17:17 EDT From: Paul Svensson If you want to make it available by http from svensson.org, you need to put it in ~/html/pub/, then you can link to it from the ITS web site on SV. Thanks. Florian  Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:17:17 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725154.030624.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> ITS-Lovers@mc.lc.mit.edu still exists, but traffic is vey low; it can stay quiet fro months. There's also its-hackers@cosmic.com, but that list is more focused on running ITS and stuff that runs under ITS. It's fairly quiet as well. I'd say post a link on both. If you want to make it available by http from svensson.org, you need to put it in ~/html/pub/, then you can link to it from the ITS web site on SV. /Paul  Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:41 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725153.030624.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul The supdup client is now quite usable. I fixed the terminfo support; it turns out the supdup client was using an obsoete termcap to query for xterm-style meta, which modern termcaps and terminfos will interpret as a formatting code, hence the broken display. Compiles under Linux (just the supdup target, of course) and under FreeBSD (supdup target; after removing -lresolve). Maybe I'll hack the supdup server next. BTW, do you know whether the ITS-LOVERS mailing list ist still active, and if so, whether this supdup hackery would be of interest to them? Cheers, Florian  Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:33:13 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725152.030624.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Hi Paul, Thanks for the login! So, my quick-hack-posixised supdup client compiles on FBSD. The display is broken in the same way as on Linux. So I'll have to hack the temcap handling as well. The original 4.2BSD version compiles (modulo -lresolve) out of the box, as well; and display is broken in the same way. So I assume that it really is the termcap stuff and not my sgtty hacks. I'll work on it some more. Cheers, Florian  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:19:42 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: "fweps@greenmail.ch"@FAMILJEN.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725147.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:11:07 EDT From: Paul Svensson Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:06:33 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" I don't have access to a FreeBSD box right now, so I can't test it. But my home box doesn't even run an FTP server... Send an email to security@svensson.org, tell her I want her to set up a login for you to test supdup. That should solve both problems :) /Paul  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:11:07 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: RE: SUPDUP To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725146.030623.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:06:33 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" I don't have access to a FreeBSD box right now, so I can't test it. But my home box doesn't even run an FTP server... Send an email to security@svensson.org, tell her I want her to set up a login for you to test supdup. That should solve both problems :) /Paul  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:07:55 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" Subject: Re: Linux SUPDUP To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725145.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:51:57 EDT From: Paul Svensson Got me thinking... is anyone maintaining the supdup code nowadays ? If there's no place to eventually get the patch into the distribution, then it would be better to make a complete tarball available somewhere on a more stable webserver than at SV, and joist point to it from here. I'll put it on my d.o page. If it stabilizes enough, I may make a Debian package of it. Cheers, Florian  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:07:51 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: Re: SUPDUP To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725144.030623.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG>  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:06:33 EDT From: "Florian M. Weps" To: PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG cc: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725143.030623.FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:40:43 EDT From: Paul Svensson I've produced some preliminary patches to the supdup client distributed with klh10: it compiles under Linux and seems to get the display mostly right. Kewl. Does it work with FreeBSD as well ? I don't know, but I was under the assumption that since the supdup code was written for 4.2BSD, it yould work on FBSD out of the box. The setting in the makefile and the supdup server banner line are for SunOS. I don't have access to a FreeBSD box right now, so I can't test it. Since I couldn't figure out how to upload something to SV, I put the patch on http://people.debian.org/~fmw/supdup-posixish.diff I've disabled uploads since ITS FTP is not password protected. (There's a project for you). Simply run the ftp client on SV instead. But my home box doesn't even run an FTP server... You'll need to trim the name a bit to fit tho... /Paul  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:51:57 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: Re: Linux SUPDUP To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725142.030623.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> Got me thinking... is anyone maintaining the supdup code nowadays ? If there's no place to eventually get the patch into the distribution, then it would be better to make a complete tarball available somewhere on a more stable webserver than at SV, and joist point to it from here. /Paul  Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:40:43 EDT From: Paul Svensson To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725141.030623.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> I've produced some preliminary patches to the supdup client distributed with klh10: it compiles under Linux and seems to get the display mostly right. Kewl. Does it work with FreeBSD as well ? Since I couldn't figure out how to upload something to SV, I put the patch on http://people.debian.org/~fmw/supdup-posixish.diff I've disabled uploads since ITS FTP is not password protected. (There's a project for you). Simply run the ftp client on SV instead. You'll need to trim the name a bit to fit tho... /Paul  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:47:30 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: home directory To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725129.030621.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> You don't need CRTSTY -- TCTYP AAA is close enough to a vt100 for daily use, and otherwise the VT52 is perfect. /Paul  Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:35:11 EDT From: Paul Svensson Subject: home directory To: FMW@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG Message-ID: <725117.030620.PAUL@ITS.SVENSSON.ORG> You can use COMMON; for now By the time you end up storing too much files there, you should have found out both how to create a directory, and why it's a bad thing to do so indiscriminately. /Paul